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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2006, 02:06:43 AM »
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[quote\]. Grove Park Market is long gone.


A market at Grove Park?  When?  Where?

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Yes Bel - I just had the same thought.  I've never seen a market in Grove Park.

But it's beginning to be the same here in Australia with the shops.  Although we mainly have shopping malls in Perth, because of the heat, the only 'outside' shopping area is the city of Perth itself, but even then there are a lot of arcades.  Mainly cheap clothing shops for the kids, we do have better quality shops for us oldens.  We also have two very nice department stores - Myer and David jones, in which you can get all sorts of clothing.
When I was in England recently I was based in Hammersmith/Fulham and the shops there were old style no malls to speak of.  I was told by friends that I didn't really want to go to Lewisham, and the last time I went to Bromley I got lost.  Bromley was my 'local' shopping centre before I left England, and i remember arriving from Grove Park into Bromley North, strolling down the High street on one side and wandering up the other side, stopping off for a cup of coffee and a slice of cake along the way, in the importers shop.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2006, 03:44:07 AM »
Thanks Mike for the new photo's of downham, you are doing a great job with the site and I just like the other guys are grateful to be able to keep in touch with dear old Downham.



Brenda: my wife and I have been trying to remember the name of the "pet shop" on the corner, what seems for ages, yes hair cuts, what a terrible place that was.
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Dickie: I remember Cheismans right on the corner where the oblisk used to stand, I remember going down to the basement to have a pony ride there, there were 2 or 3 ponys, and you would be led around a circle on the pony, may have been christmas time.  I believe the oblisk was moved, but can't remember what it was for, over to you Dickie the historian.   Smiffy
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2006, 04:37:46 AM »
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.Brenda: my wife and I have been trying to remember the name of the "pet shop" on the corner, what seems for ages, yes hair cuts, what a terrible place that was.
Thanks Smiffy


My dad used to buy chicks there.
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2006, 08:17:35 AM »
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[quote\]. Grove Park Market is long gone.
A market at Grove Park?  When?  Where?
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        They built a group of shops opposite grove park station long after I had left on my wanderings, it even had an area of frontage which became a car park . Presumably one or two local traders made use of the parking area to hold a mini-market. Grove park itself was always a miserable place to shop and had non of the charisma of going "up the top", or the bottom of downham way.              dickie......................
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2006, 08:20:40 AM »
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[quote\]. Grove Park Market is long gone.
A market at Grove Park?  When?  Where?
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        They built a group of shops opposite grove park station long after I had left on my wanderings, it even had an area of frontage which became a car park . Presumably one or two local traders made use of the parking area to hold a mini-market. Grove park itself was always a miserable place to shop and had non of the charisma of going "up the top", or the bottom of downham way.              dickie......................


Yes near the bus station, there was a Pricerites I recall.  Mum would send me shopping each night when I got home from school, started off with one item, and expanded.  Nowadays we have a saying when something gets bigger "It's like my mothers shopping list".
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2006, 08:31:01 AM »
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[quote\]. Grove Park Market is long gone.
A market at Grove Park?  When?  Where?
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        They built a group of shops opposite grove park station long after I had left on my wanderings, it even had an area of frontage which became a car park . Presumably one or two local traders made use of the parking area to hold a mini-market. Grove park itself was always a miserable place to shop and had non of the charisma of going "up the top", or the bottom of downham way.              dickie......................


Yes near the bus station, there was a Pricerites I recall.  Mum would send me shopping each night when I got home from school, started off with one item, and expanded.  Nowadays we have a saying when something gets bigger "It's like my mothers shopping list".



The Market was in the Car park of the Baring Hall Hotel (Pub)  I will check with My dad when it started.
 but I know it was there in the early 70s and didnt stop til some timein the 90s. It was on a friday so as not to clash with Bromleys Thursday market.

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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2006, 08:43:04 AM »
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[quote\]. Grove Park Market is long gone.
A market at Grove Park?  When?  Where?
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        They built a group of shops opposite grove park station long after I had left on my wanderings, it even had an area of frontage which became a car park . Presumably one or two local traders made use of the parking area to hold a mini-market. Grove park itself was always a miserable place to shop and had non of the charisma of going "up the top", or the bottom of downham way.              dickie......................


Yes near the bus station, there was a Pricerites I recall.  Mum would send me shopping each night when I got home from school, started off with one item, and expanded.  Nowadays we have a saying when something gets bigger "It's like my mothers shopping list".



The Market was in the Car park of the Baring Hall Hotel (Pub)  I will check with My dad when it started.
 but I know it was there in the early 70s and didnt stop til some timein the 90s. It was on a friday so as not to clash with Bromleys Thursday market.


I don't remember the Baring having a car park!  It was right on top of the railway line to Hither Green.  And I don't remember a market there in the 70s,  I remember the winkle man.  Sent to buy a pint of winkles of a Sunday morning.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2006, 08:52:09 AM »
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 I remember Cheismans right on the corner where the oblisk used to stand,   I believe the oblisk was moved, but can't remember what it was for,Smiffy


Did you mean the Clock tower that stood out side Cheismans in the middle of the road. So that traffic coming from Lee High road and Lewisham High street had to go around it.
 That was moved about 50 yards towards the High street when they made the High street Between the Post office at Lee High road and the entrance to theRiverdale centre next to Marks and spencers pedestrian only.

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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2006, 08:16:23 PM »
ah......yes I remember the pony rides now and the oblisk and the water trough . Used to get the bus from Lewisham to Greenwich to visit my grandmother .I used to think that Greenwich was a dump in those days and couldnt wait to get back to Downham.. now it is a desirable place to live. Remember too the donkey rides in Greenwich Park , used to take a bottle of water and some jam sandwiches and spend the day there.Bel

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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2006, 04:08:13 AM »
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ah......yes I remember the pony rides now and the oblisk and the water trough . Used to get the bus from Lewisham to Greenwich to visit my grandmother .I used to think that Greenwich was a dump in those days and couldnt wait to get back to Downham.. now it is a desirable place to live. Remember too the donkey rides in Greenwich Park , used to take a bottle of water and some jam sandwiches and spend the day there.Bel


I used to go to Greenwich Park for the day with a group of friends, I must have been about 10 years old.  Can you imagine allowing a 10 year old to go to Greenwich Park now?

Just out of interest - Before coming to Australia I had several Oak trees in pots, about 3 ft high, I was eventually going to plant them in my garden, but coming here put the end to that.  But in 1987 there was a hurricane that came through, and uprooted a lot of Oak trees in Greenwich Park.  So I donated my trees, and the head gardener was over the moon, I had saved him about 6 years (Not much in the growth of an Oak tree I know). I went to visit them before I left, and they were still be tended in the 'nursery' and they were due to be planted in about 2000, I guess they are still there.
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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2006, 11:45:14 AM »
what a lovely story, and what a thoughtful donation which must have been so much appreciated in view of the damage done to the park. I  used to plant acorns when I was a kid hoping for an instant oak tree, but never had much luck!  My mother however used to plant apple pips in her garden in Downham and in due course (over 20 years)  had a lovely apple tree with a bumper crop, which supplied all our neighbours with apples for their pies.  Bel

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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2006, 11:42:25 PM »
No, I didn't know Baring Hotel had a carpark either!  There probably wasn't a need for it originally as no-one on Downham had cars!  I do remember the old railway bridge near Grove Park station being renewed and the news shop built.   You're right Dickie, nobody really had any interest in shopping at Grove Park.  I've got a photo of the baker's shop.  I'll ask the lady in it if she minds it going into the photo gallery.  It's a good reminder of how bakers used to be.  

Chiesmans was where Mum used to take us to see Father Christmas.  I loved going through the 'tunnel' with the displays but didn't like Father Christmas.   I wasn't the sort of child who appreciated sittting on strangers' laps and being squeezed.  

Glad to have been of help with "Haircut's" shop.  Yes, it was a dreadful, dreadful place.  

Pauline, I love the anecdote of your oak trees.  It warms the heart.  I spent many a Saturday afternoon with my friend and her family in Greenwich Park. They had a car and whenever they took a trip anywhere, they always took me with them.  It was marvellous.  Later, when I was a teenager and had a wonky bike, another friend and I cycled there just about every day.  Oh those hills!

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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2006, 08:55:59 AM »
THe Carpark for the Baring hall is on Downham Way. Maybe it was the delivery yard or something. Or some where for the hotel guests to park. I will ask my dad what he remembers. It also might have been a bomb damaged house that never got rebuilt.
I remember going to the Shops at grove park with my grandparents in the 70s my nan used to go in to Epax (the freezer shop) next to the baring hall hotel. opposite the station. Also The International store (formerly pricerites) now I think somerfields. But on the whole it wasn't that great.

They have only just got an ATM machine put in the last five years or so since I stopped travelling through there.
THe best thing to have come to grove park is a tescos garage in the Esso petrol station next to the bus terminus and st augustines church. THey stock quite a lot of stuff in there and ever so handy as you obviously park at the pumps anddo a quick shop when you get your petrol.

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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2006, 09:06:28 AM »
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THe Carpark for the Baring hall is on Downham Way. Maybe it was the delivery yard or something. Or some where for the hotel guests to park. I will ask my dad what he remembers. It also might have been a bomb damaged house that never got rebuilt.
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I think there used to be a beer garden there at some time, there was also a detached house that I believe was a doctors surgery.
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2006, 12:32:35 PM »
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THe Carpark for the Baring hall is on Downham Way. Maybe it was the delivery yard or something. Or some where for the hotel guests to park. I will ask my dad what he remembers. It also might have been a bomb damaged house that never got rebuilt.
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I think there used to be a beer garden there at some time, there was also a detached house that I believe was a doctors surgery.


THe Drs surgery is now a Funeral Directors.