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General Discussion / News Shopper
« on: June 05, 2018, 04:47:25 AM »
For those interested I have just come across a UK website called News Shopper it covers up to date news from the following areas.
Bromley.Bexley.Greenwich.Dartford.Lewisham.Southwark. etc.

Cheers Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: Where has everybody gone
« on: November 23, 2017, 11:00:05 PM »
Come on you lot out there, use it before you lose it.

There must be something interesting that you have to say to save this group.

Regards to all,
Tony Cross

General Discussion / Re: Where has everybody gone
« on: August 17, 2017, 05:11:08 AM »
Hello again Brenda and others. Brenda you asked if I struck up a bonding with my father on his return to civvy life. well not really Dad joined the GPO as a Postman and he used to work all the hours he could it would be nothing for him to do his morning shift then come home sometime in the afternoon have dinner then go for a lay down and then back to work for the nightshift commencing at Midnight then carry onto the morning shift as well. Hence I still did not see much of him. I started my National Service in 1957 with the RAOC to start with but when they told me that I was going to be a clerk for two years I said no thanks, they then told me I was the right build and height for the RMP I couldn't get there quickly enough. After 16 weeks training I was posted to London District in Church Lane Kensington ( great ) then after that I was posted to Fontainbleau France again a perk posting, did about 10 months there and was posted back to London District until demob. in 1959. Because I had some experience with telephone exchanges I scored the job as an exchange operator in London District, another perk. We got married in 1960 and migrated to N.Z. in 1961. We went back for a trip in 1963 but that was spoilt by the news that Dad had terminal lung cancer in early 1964 Dad died and I went back for the funeral.  Well Brenda the biggest regret of my life was not getting to really know my Father better but what I did know about him was that he was a truly great man in my opinion. In 1999 we moved to Buderim on the Sunshine Coast of Queensland what a great place to settle down.
Keep in touch, all the best Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: Where has everybody gone
« on: August 01, 2017, 12:18:31 PM »
Good to hear from you Brenda.I think that this has been said several times before. Strange things happen well here is another one which I have not shared before. About 10 years ago we shifted into a Queensland Government unit in Buderim Queensland and before long we got to know the neighbours and it transpires that one lady lived in West Wickham around the time that I lived at 29 Links Road before we got bombed out and my brother and I were evacuated to Huddersfield for a couple of years. Getting back to the lady it transpires that not only did we live in the same area but we also honeymooned in the same place ,Dymchurch , but at different times and we married at the same church again at different times.
Changing the subject but when I read stories of the amount of depression and suicides that happen in 2017 I wonder how we all managed to get through things much much worse  than the present day probems. I was born in 1938 and my father joined up for the second world war and I did not see him until 1945. We were seperated from my mother for 2 years so I do not know how she coped. I am happy to say like so many others we got through things o.k.

All the best  and good luck.

Tony Cross

General Discussion / Where has everybody gone
« on: July 07, 2017, 04:47:49 AM »
Have I missed something but where has everybody gone.

regards all Tony Cross

Thanks Splinter that's correct.


Where are they now? / Trying to trace Thomas ( Tom ,Tommy) Crawford
« on: March 27, 2014, 04:12:29 AM »
Hi everybody,
My name is Tony Cross ex 306 Shroffold Road 1946 - 1960.
I have tried before but with no success so am trying again to trace Tom. I can't remember the name of the road that he lived in but as you left "up the top "travelling "down the bottom "he lived on the road that went from Downham Way to Bromley Road. Nearing the end of the road there were blocks of 2- 3 storey flats and Tom lived on the second floor with his Father Alec mother Katie younger brothers Alec and Jim and sister Rene. They migrated to Australia in about 1960 the father transferred to Adelaide with De Havilland. Tom was quite a good footballer and played a few games for Juventus Adelaide and there was talk that he moved to somewhere in the Blue Mountains NSW. Jimmy stayed in Downham as he didn't want to migrate.

If anybody has any info please contact me at
My now wife Frances lived at 57 Ballamore Road from the 1940's until we got married in 1960 and then migrated to NZ in 1961 then onto Buderim, Sunshine Coast Queensland in 1999.My wife's maiden name was Day and she is a twin of Margaret, they went to Pendragon and then onto Durham Hill.
there was some mention of a young lad getting killed at the Footbridge, one of the things that I remember was when a youngster climbed the iron railings slipped and was impaled on  a spike. He was quite lucky in one sense as the spike went into his upper leg and no higher.
All the best to the Downhamíites

Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Trying to trace Tom Crawford
« on: March 26, 2012, 05:43:14 AM »
Hello all,
I am trying to trace Tom ( Tommy/Thomas ) Crawford who used to live on Downham. Tom his parents and younger sister and brother migrated to Adelaide in the early 60's they left another brother Jim at home because he didn't want to migrate. Tom played a few games of football for Juventus Adelaide. I understand that Tom later moved to the Blue Mountains area of NSW.

Old friends Brian Price, Worthing and Tony Cross, Buderim , Sunshine Coast ,Queensland both old friends of Tom's would like to contact him again.

Regards to all from Downham if still there or wherever.

Tony Cross ex 306 Shroffold Road, Ballamore Road School and Downham Secondary. 1946 - 1960.

General Discussion / Re: shops
« on: November 14, 2010, 11:02:46 PM »
Hello all. Long time no connect. Our Coop number was 12293. I remember it as easy as my army no.23377526.

The name Hearn was mentioned, Maurice Hearn lived next door to us in Shroffold Road, they lived at 304 we at 306 as far as I know he wasn't related to the other Hearn that was mentioned.

Maurice owned an elecrical shop just along from the Coop but didn't do very well out of it.

Boltons brings back memories, instead of catching the tram on Downham Way near The Green to attend Downham Sec. we walked and spent the money on sweets.

All the best to everyone. Regards Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: Memories for our Kids/Grand Kids
« on: March 31, 2009, 07:08:29 AM »
re Pauline and the Grove Park chippy, my wife remembers going in there as a child and asking if they had any chips left and when they answered yes they were told that they shouldn't have cooked so many !.

 But they did do really nice Rock Salmon and chips.

Regards to all ex 306 Shroffold Road and got a great view of the old house on Google Street View.

General Discussion / Re: Wartime Downham
« on: May 02, 2008, 12:00:00 PM »
Hello Brenda.

When did you work in Cheapside ?. I worked at the Car & General Ins. Corp.
1 Queen Victoria Street in the Bank of New Zealand building bang opposite the Mansion House. I worked there from 1953 until I did my National Service in the Royal Military Police in 1957. I went back for awhile after demob and the firm had moved further along Queen Victoria Street towards St Pauls but I couldn't stand doing office work after the mob so left pretty quickly. it must have been fate because in 1960 I married and in 1961 migrated to New Zealand to become a traffic cop before moving onto OZ in 1999.

I can remember standing out on the window alcove to get a great view of the Lord Mayors Show because the windows looked down from the first floor directly onto the entrance to the Mansion House. Another thing that I remember was the cushy City of London office hours. 0930 to 1700 and trying to catch the 1702 from Cannon Street to Grove Park because it was fast to Hither Green. Also the luncheon vouchers of 2 shillings and threepence bought a lovely meal at a cafe just across the road in Bow Lane , and just imagine in those days we had to call the boss Sir.

You may remember that the Mithras Temple was discovered just out the back of the Bank's building.

Regards Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: IMPORTANT - please read
« on: April 18, 2008, 10:35:15 PM »
Thanks Mike,

 I wondered why I got a pop up warning that to enter the site was dangerous. At least I know that the warning system works.

Regards Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: Local history: Downham Wall
« on: April 18, 2008, 10:31:19 PM »
Hello Smiffy,
Sorry I  can't recognise any of the names of the teachers that you mentioned, I do remember a Mr Donoghue, I think that's how you spell his name, he took book keeping and I believe a Mr Evans was the art teacher. Mr Dorringtron was the Headmaster while I was there. I have just pulled out my school reports from the time and other teachers mentioned were Johnson, Betts , who was Headmaster before Dorrington, Burnett who was a sadistic b...... he carried a cane around tucked up his sleeve, and Kyte. That's about all I can remember.

Where abouts did you live on downham , I lived in Shroffold at the Grove Park end.

Regards Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: Local history: Downham Wall
« on: April 10, 2008, 11:00:43 PM »
Yes the wall was at the bottom of Valeswood Road I think that it was built to divide the have's from the have not's. More of the well known British snobbery that was rife at the time.I was a member of the Bromley and Downham Boys Club which was just a few metres from the "great wall". During my time at the club  , about 1949 to 1957 , the wall was demolished. I know that because as part of our football training we used to run to Bromley and back via where the wall used to be.

Are there any ex members of the club out there. The club leader at my time was Lew Ashman. I did hear that he had problems sometime later with the police regarding his activities at the club but I never knew if there was any truth to the allegations because during my time there were no problems and he was a really good leader.

I also attended Downham Secondary although I somehow managed to graduate to the Central class, the top class of each year was regarded as the Central level but having failed that stupid 11 plus exam I found things a bit difficult. What a stupid thing that 11 plus exam was it virtually decided your future at age 11 although many that failed ended up getting really good jobs later in life.

Regards Tony Cross.

General Discussion / Re: Happy Memories of Downham
« on: April 10, 2008, 12:46:48 PM »
Hello Snowdrop and Christine. I haven't been on the website for ages and was surprised to read that you lived in Dagonet Gardens. I lived at 306 Shroffold Road which was near Dagonet. If you turned right from Dagonet into Shroffold I lived in the third house on the right. I lived there from 1946 to 1960 when I got married and soon migrated to New Zealand and then onto the Sunshine Coast of Queensland in 1999 and love it here. We often used to play in the long grass outside the flats as youngsters. The only person that I remember from the flats was Alfie Taylor who used to bully me until I finally gave him a thump and he was very friendly after that. One of you mentioned the Anderson's in Shroffold that must have been where the Carters lived in my time I remember they had a nice daughter Marina but she was too big for me, I mean age wise. Others that lived in Shroffold near us at that time were two lots of White's, Minsters, Gosbee, Lloyd Simmonds, Hearns and if you turned left from Dagonet there were the Fox twins, Heeney's another Fox family and the Smiths. Do you remeber any of them ?.
Have to sign off for now so welcome to Downham on line it's great to catch up with people from the same area. One thing that really surprised me was that when I lived in New Zealand I knew four people that lived in my area that all came from Downham, what a small world.
Cheers Tony Cross

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