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Title: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: birdie on April 06, 2009, 09:19:25 PM
Hiya folks...I am also new to this site my family were moved from Bermondsey as we lived right close to  the timber yard  area in the  Surrey Docks (down town )  When the war started They moved us  to Downham in September 1939.. We moved into 25 Pendragon Road Familey name ( Starling) as soon as the |Blitz started a bomb dropped in the Back garden of 33 Pedrgon Road (( a one thousand pounder)) and it didnt explode ...Boy did we  leave the house quick too.. they sent the bomb disposal squad in and done a controled exposion about a week latter... all our dividing bedroom walls were blown out also a few windows ..My age now is 79 .. i wonder if anyone remembers me (Bill Starling) If so i would love to hear from you Bye Now
      ... Bill ...
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 06, 2009, 11:29:47 PM
Nice to have you on site Bill. Either open a new forum or go on general discussion which we all seem to be on . I`ve had a lovely night . Nice meal a few drinks (not to much) family and friends. Wish you lived nearer. GOD I`M GETTING OLD> 55 TODAY EH!!!!!! John.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Pauline on April 07, 2009, 01:59:49 AM
Nice to have you on site Bill. Either open a new forum or go on general discussion which we all seem to be on . I`ve had a lovely night . Nice meal a few drinks (not to much) family and friends. Wish you lived nearer. GOD I`M GETTING OLD> 55 TODAY EH!!!!!! John.

Hi Bill - good to hear from you.  It's really so lovely when we get new members who actually do post messages, we get to hear different stories, and whole new threads start.

BTW I'm 65 tomorrow 8th April.  Us Aries are good old folks. Not thinking of retiring just yet - I think I would go mad.

There was a bomb that dropped at the end of Geratint Road, in Ivorydown, and it did explode.  Apparently it blew in all our windows, and glass became embedded in Mums piano - she was so cross - took it personal.  Diid a lot of damage to our house, and we had to take up temporary lodgings in Moorside until it was fixed.  Mum hated Moorside because there were 4 steps down to the house, and there was me in my pram!
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 07, 2009, 05:22:42 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAULINE!!!!!  :) Us aries are wonderful folk. Have a good day.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: birdie on April 07, 2009, 08:54:54 AM
Does any one remember the Sandhurst road School Getting bombed..It happend about 1.PM dinner time just a lone german plane flying just over the roof height Machine gunning several schools he then dropped one bomb in Harrises steam roller yard in Sangly road and then dropped another on the school..i can remember going down on my cycle to help hand pick the bricks away to get to the children out, with my dad i must have been 13 or 14 years old If you look in the cemertary Verdernt lane ,they have the children and teachers grave in there..even the cemertary had a V2 rocket hit it to..and it blew out lots of graves, and stones fell over several houses and garden etc..when the bombing was heavy i use to go and sleep in Chislehurst caves..that was good fun for me.Bit damp but ok..(( Just tell me if i bore you folks..))... Bill ...
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Pauline on April 07, 2009, 09:23:23 AM
Does any one remember the Sandhurst road School Getting bombed..It happend about 1.PM dinner time just a lone german plane flying just over the roof height Machine gunning several schools he then dropped one bomb in Harrises steam roller yard in Sangly road and then dropped another on the school..i can remember going down on my cycle to help hand pick the bricks away to get to the children out, with my dad i must have been 13 or 14 years old If you look in the cemertary Verdernt lane ,they have the children and teachers grave in there..even the cemertary had a V2 rocket hit it to..and it blew out lots of graves, and stones fell over several houses and garden etc..when the bombing was heavy i use to go and sleep in Chislehurst caves..that was good fun for me.Bit damp but ok..(( Just tell me if i bore you folks..))... Bill ...
Is this the Torridon Road bombing?  My Dad always got very angry when we passed that school.  Said a lot of words I wasn't supposed to hear.

We used to visit Chislehurst caves when I was a teenager, still very damp, and a bit creepy.  We also went to Keston Ponds. Got the green bus from Bromley North.  I must have been about 12 or 13.  I'm sure that todays parents would never let their children go that far alone.

My Pete always refers to the bomb sites as 'adventure playgrounds'.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: christine on April 07, 2009, 10:21:05 AM
My parents were lucky enough to have been evacuated to Reading during the war - think because my dad was a riveter in the aircraft industry (Fairey Aviation think was the name).  I remember being told about the bomb that hit the school when I was older and visited the memorial site just after my father's funeral.  It certainly brought home just how much my parents and the children of those times went through. Cannot believe we are now coming up to the 65th anniversary of D Day - so we baby-boomers are now all retirees (or nearly) and most of our parents are long gone - although my in-laws are still around and my father-in-law (ex-navy) has still got his memories of D Day and being off shore at Arromanches running messages up and down the fleet in his little boat.  He tells me he was a 'pirate' during the war - chasing 'E' boats and sending them to watery graves (one of which got him the DSM from the King). Sorry - gone completely off the subject - but wish all birthday people a very happy one - my 65th comes up in August and will definitely celebrate with a glass or three.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Dickie eagle on April 07, 2009, 03:59:11 PM
 getting OLD mate ? keep thinking that way and you will. I am just marking time for the next 20 years before carrying on with the count. I remember hearing about the Doodle bugs and we thought they were like the Jap Kamikazes, pity they didn't think of dropping a nuclear weapon on Berlin though. Lets move on to a cheerful  subject ,  ..................  dickie
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Dickie eagle on April 07, 2009, 04:11:48 PM
 I am trying to visualise the Starlings we knew, and the name "Chrissie" comes to mind she had some brothers    who would be around in thier late 80's to mid- 90,s by now.they were from around the Brunswick Yard of the Surrey Docks area of Rotherhithe            dickie..........................
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Vic on April 07, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
I remember the Sandhurst Road School bombing. I was at Ballamore Road School, upstairs in the hall having dinner. We heard the aircraft coming - there were four of them - and the teacher on duty told us all to get under the tables - quickly! There had been no siren warning, the raid was a complete surprise - even the barrage ballooons were down - they were supposed to stop that sort of raid. The teacher was right to assume that the aeroplanes were unfriendly! Everyone in the area was very angry about the event, but on later reflection I am sure that the Luftwaffe fighter bombers intended to hit Hither Green railway sidings. They were travelling at around 400 mph so a few seconds error in sighting could have caused the tragic bombing of the school. I remember that they also strafed Sydenham Gas Works and set a gas holder on fire. I believe that my first teacher in the Ballamore Infants School in 1935, a Miss Jukes, was killed at Sandhurst Road with other teachers and many children. At the time of the bombing I lived at 17 Merlin Gardens, having been born in Ballamore Road in 1931 and moved to Merlin Gardens in 1935. My elder brother Stanley, was killed at Forest Hill in 1940 in an air raid, just at the end of the Battle of Britain, on my father's birthday, and is buried in Hither Green Cemetery next to the Sandhurst Road School victims. Incidentally, I told some of the children in Merlin School (was Ballamore Road) about the bombing of Sandhurst Road School when I visited Downham, and the school of course, last year. I now live many miles from Downham having left there in 1949 to join the RAF where I served for 34 years, but I do look back to my childhood there with great nostalgia. Most of my mates of those times have passed on, but I am still in touch with one who used to live in Durham Hill.   
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 07, 2009, 10:22:02 PM
If you look at all the houses at the top of Pendragon they still have cracks on the outside walls normally between the top of the door to the bottom of the upstairs window. When they did the controlled explosion. The blast hit the back of my house went through the gap of end of terrace and hit the houses opposite. When next door as buying his house his surveyor thought that all the houses had subsidence, until i put him right and said its been like it for over 60 years and they will be OK for another 60. Thats a pondering thought. The estate will still be around when all of us will have wings. Hopefully this site will still be going, witha lot more Nubies.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: birdie on April 08, 2009, 07:32:56 PM
Hiya Dickie... Yes there were seveal Starling familys.. as my dads family were all living in the area and he had about 13 brothers and sisters ..we lived at Amos Estate and my nan  lived in Lavender house.we were all Bermonsey folks .. some working in the docks and when i left school i went onto the tugboats . was on the SteamTug Viper ...ST Muska....STAbomba...and ST Vespa.. this was 1944 when i left school..the St Viper was the Tower Bridge Tug and we use to bring any big boats through the bridge and it was the only Tug on the river with a very thick steel Wheel House roof (Bullet Proof)this Tug worked through all the air raids..just after the war we use to watch the Eagle steamers  ((General Steam Navigation Boats))going out and returning at night from day trips to Southeend and Margate and Ramsgate etc..I bet a lot of the Downham folks were on them at time too haha..I met my wife Lily when going ashore off Tower pier we were both 16 and we married at 18 on Christmas day 1948 by this time i was called up for the Army and this year Celibrated our Diamond 60th Annerversary Last Christmas 2008 (got our Queens Letter to haha) ..
                                                Take care Dickie
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Dickie eagle on April 08, 2009, 09:27:58 PM
Hi "Birdie", I used to live in No2 Tower Bridge Rd,. which was convenient as my first ship was the Pocock,which was of the General Steamship Co.. I didnt know the Golden and Crested Eagle paddleboate were GCNCo.Most of their vessels had names ending in "cock" (Pocock, Twocock etc)and the head office and mooring was just under Tower Bridge in St, Katherine's Dock. they were the O'connel,who were related to my Grandfather (Linihan)         werent the Tugs part of the PLA too? There were quite a few Eagle's in Bermondsey            dickie...........
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Pauline on April 09, 2009, 05:09:10 AM
Hi "Birdie", I used to live in No2 Tower Bridge Rd,.

My Gran worked in Barrow Hepburn and Gale a leather goods place which was situated in Grange Road, which I believe was just off of Tower Bridge Road.  She lived in Walworth, first Darwin Buildings in Crail Row, then Tatum Street, which I don't think is there any more.  She would pay into a Christmas Club in Searles (or something like that). 
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Dickie eagle on April 09, 2009, 08:46:58 AM
Hi "Birdie", I used to live in No2 Tower Bridge Rd,. which was convenient as my first ship was the Pocock,which was of the General Steam Navigation  Co.. I didnt know the Golden and Crested Eagle paddleboate were GSNCo.Most of their vessels had names ending in "cock" (Pocock, Twocock etc)and the head office and mooring was just under Tower Bridge in St, Katherine's Dock. they were the O'connel,who were related to my Grandfather (Linihan)         werent the Tugs part of the PLA too? There were quite a few Eagle's in Bermondsey            dickie...........
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: birdie on April 09, 2009, 04:45:01 PM
First of all""" HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAULINE"""you are just a chick to me haha ime now 79...but as we all know AGE is just a number isnt it???
Dikie yes all the eagle boats were all GSN boats including the Crested eagle ((Sunk at Dunkique) another was the ...Golden Eagle ..Royal Eagle ...Royal Daffodill...to name a few ... Yes  the General steam nav co were just outside the lower pool south side of the river..the moorings were called((Irion Gate Wharf ))the boat that came in regularly there was the  "Comerant "and in Saint Cathrines dock most or thw small Dutch boats went in there .they brought over lots of salad stuff tomatoes cucumbers Lettuce etc...one of our Tug boats was hit with two crews changing over by a doodle bug 1943 the tug was called the"" ST Betty""My skipper was an old sailing craft skipper and he was brilliant Boatman but colour blind and use to call down the talk tube and say  ..Bill come up here and tell me what colour this  F/ing light is (Honest))..he was a danger to us all hahaha the main craft we attended was the Red sail coastal sailing barges  mainly from Ipswitch??.with just one man and a dog on them or perhaps a lad about 14 years as well ..Tell you some lore latter Dickie haha Take care Bill
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Dickie eagle on April 10, 2009, 01:42:07 PM
Bill. Brenda will love this one , you mentioned the "Iron Gate at Tower Bridge, wasn't that Thai Portcullis on the Tower side  ( better known as "Traitors Gate " ? )Our office was St. Katherines dock on the north side mind you I was happier once we passed the Nore lightship going out, or the Brunswick  (Canada wharf ) coming back , they used to open the swing bridge at eleven at night                                                                                                                  
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on April 10, 2009, 03:17:14 PM
Does any one remember the Sandhurst road School Getting bombed..It happend about 1.PM dinner time just a lone German plane flying just over the roof height Machine gunning several schools he then dropped one bomb in Harrises steam roller yard in Sangly road and then dropped another on the school..i can remember going down on my cycle to help hand pick the bricks away to get to the children out, with my dad i must have been 13 or 14 years old If you look in the cemetery Verdernt lane ,they have the children and teachers grave in there..even the cemetery had a V2 rocket hit it to..and it blew out lots of graves, and stones fell over several houses and garden etc..when the bombing was heavy i use to go and sleep in Chislehurst caves..that was good fun for me.Bit damp but ok..(( Just tell me if i bore you folks..))... Bill ...
I did not move to Downham till after the war, I was in Leeds for some of the war then lived in Palace Rd Bromley, and spent a lot of time at Chislehurst Caves, my Parents lived in Downham from Downhams early Days, Dad in Downham Way and Mum Verdent Lane(Hutchison/Collinson Families) Chislehurst Caves was great in my teens, being a trad fan, Acker Bilk etc, All I remember about the war years is getting off the train from Leeds and being scared of aircraft, Both Mum and Dad were in the RAF, well untill I came along the mum had other duties?
Title: re collections
Post by: birdie on April 21, 2009, 08:30:55 AM
Hiya folks ..i now live in Surrey.and we get all  our collections collected every week (regularly)So pretty lucky i think ,But out roads are very bad and need a lot of work done on them.. so it appears they do good on a few bits and skimp on others ... But i think Splinter has a point there  saying bring back poll Tax ... My wife and myself are now getting old and living still with only 2 of us  in our 3 bedroomed house and we are paying 1300.+for the two of us ..So Poll Tax would be good for us also..((Good thought Splinter..)) Got you down as Prime minister for next election..((And god help you if you forget i was a friend of you nan and grandad also you mum  )) Take care folks.. best of luck from (Birdie ) Bill
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Dickie eagle on April 21, 2009, 10:48:01 AM
Billy Starling, Dahnum was an Aviary when you consider that with me and John Hawks in Ivorydown, Chrissie Sparrowhawk in Churchdown Jim Wren in (yes) Wrenthorpe,Joan Drake in Launcelot,plus The Swans, cor stone the Crows who were near St Barnabas,plus Alan Kite ! ! !  any more birds out there? Apart from that I did my first Car Boot of the year at Ascot and did well , it's all part of the "Black economy " folk. Another thought also do our MP's have to join the MU (Musicians Union ) ? as they are always on the Fiddle. Keep up the pressure and at the next election do not vote for them plus NO SCOTS in a London parliament as they can have a scottish constituency that Brits cant have according to my Scots friends ,that way we can get rid of the worst - including Brown and Mr. Speaker. And after a few years in Parliament they will doubtless award themselves with enormous pensionable rights. It could be easier to shoot the Bloody lot eh ?               dickie......................... P,S, I got out of the wrong side of the bed too ........
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 25, 2009, 12:14:38 AM
Hello Bill. Good to see that you are better. Please dont make me PM. Some of the things i would do would not be popular. Although i am not a fanatic of the French atleast they look after there own and its about time that we stopped trying to be all things to all people. I think what i will do is after a little thought i will put forward a manifesto. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HERE ARE IDEAS FROM ALL OF YOU . Please keep it clean i know that you are sorly tempted. Perhaps its just a way of letting off steam. But my first part would to sack 400 MP`s. They are not all needed this day and age ,as most of our Laws are made in EU ? That would save a few Million. Then only get to vote for People who know what they are talking about. And . This is the big one " All MP`s are Independant ie NO political Parties". This way they would spend their time doing things NOT talking about doing them and then going back on it because they have to toe the line. Would love to hear your ideas.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: christine on April 26, 2009, 08:53:47 PM
Hello Bill. Good to see that you are better. Please dont make me PM. Some of the things i would do would not be popular. Although i am not a fanatic of the French atleast they look after there own and its about time that we stopped trying to be all things to all people. I think what i will do is after a little thought i will put forward a manifesto. BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HERE ARE IDEAS FROM ALL OF YOU . Please keep it clean i know that you are sorly tempted. Perhaps its just a way of letting off steam. But my first part would to sack 400 MP`s. They are not all needed this day and age ,as most of our Laws are made in EU ? That would save a few Million. Then only get to vote for People who know what they are talking about. And . This is the big one " All MP`s are Independant ie NO political Parties". This way they would spend their time doing things NOT talking about doing them and then going back on it because they have to toe the line. Would love to hear your ideas.
Splinter - think they should all first come clean about their expenses and try to be honest in what they are claiming.  We talk about other countries having corrupt governments but seems to me we have a problem with our own.  As for Euro MP's - if we believe what we read in the papers - they are doing even better!
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 26, 2009, 10:49:37 PM
I think if all MP`S and MEP`S were self employed, they could only claim expenses that they occured and a milage allowance. So when they want your vote they also put in a tender to do the job as well, that way the voters could see if they could be afforded and if they went above the tender for no good reason they could be sacked. Now that would stop us being taken for a ride. Also if she was sharing the house with her sister , why did she claim for a whole bath plug it should of been only half a plug. If i claimed expenses that were doggy the Tax Man would come down on me and not only would i have to pay it back but i would get a fine. I can`t see that happening to our DEAR (expensive) MP`S.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Pauline on April 27, 2009, 01:21:13 AM
I think if all MP`S and MEP`S were self employed, they could only claim expenses that they occured and a milage allowance. So when they want your vote they also put in a tender to do the job as well, that way the voters could see if they could be afforded and if they went above the tender for no good reason they could be sacked. Now that would stop us being taken for a ride. Also if she was sharing the house with her sister , why did she claim for a whole bath plug it should of been only half a plug. If i claimed expenses that were doggy the Tax Man would come down on me and not only would i have to pay it back but i would get a fine. I can`t see that happening to our DEAR (expensive) MP`S.

I am sure that those people who established the 'Westminster' system of Parliament in the 13th century would not recognise it today.  The idea was that 'we' would choose 'someone' (MP) from our area (constituency), and they would go to Parliament and tell them what we wanted, and try to get it for us.  I don't see any resemblance to that in todays Parliament, either here in Australia (we are supposed to follow the 'Westminster' system) or in the UK.  I remember many years ago before I came downunder, an MP was reminded of this procedure, and his comment was that the ordinary people don't know what's good for them, and the MPs have to decide on our behalf!!!!!  I also recall that MPs were only paid expenses, of course all that has now changed.
And - Brenda and Hutchsky - I cannot for the life of me understand the point of this 'preferential voting' we have here in Australia, what a load of Bollocks that is!  At least in the UK it's 'first man/woman past the post', I can understand that, but to go to the polling station and have to get an instruction sheet on who to vote for to get your party into Parliament is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 27, 2009, 08:28:13 PM
We have that type of voting for MEP`S, IE euro. I haven`t got a clue who i`m voting for half the time. I think its to pull the wool over our eyes. I think i might start a new forum to see if i could be elected, the only problem is i wouldn`t know if i had won. THE OTHER IS THAT I MIGHT NEED A FEW MORE VOTES THAN WHO`S ONLINE. But you never know.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Pauline on April 28, 2009, 02:08:07 AM
We have that type of voting for MEP`S, IE euro. I haven`t got a clue who i`m voting for half the time. I think its to pull the wool over our eyes. I think i might start a new forum to see if i could be elected, the only problem is i wouldn`t know if i had won. THE OTHER IS THAT I MIGHT NEED A FEW MORE VOTES THAN WHO`S ONLINE. But you never know.

The other significant fact is that here in Australia we hae to vote, it's compulsory, and we get fined if we don't.  Not that the fine is exhorbitant.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on April 28, 2009, 06:37:46 AM
I think that they should put an extra box on the voting form stating "None of the above, cause their all useless".
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on April 28, 2009, 09:00:23 AM
I think that they should put an extra box on the voting form stating "None of the above, cause their all useless".
Now I like That!
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Brenda on April 30, 2009, 10:56:14 PM
Nice to meet you, Bill, keep the anecdotes coming. Dickie is right. I love it all these trips down Memory Lane.  And don't worry, you won't be boring anyone.

My mother remembers the school bombing incident well.  We lived in a top floor flat in  Crutchley Rd (just off Verdant Lane) during the war and she remembers the low flying plane that came over so low she always said she could see the pilot.  I used to wonder about this but having read other people's accounts, it seems she wasn't exaggerating.  She also said that when the cemetery was bombed, a few body parts were scattered about.  Someone nearby found an arm in her garden.

I'm just a bit too young to have any war memories (born at the end of '43) but I am sure my fear of loud noises comes from that period.

Bren 
Title: sandhurst road school
Post by: Robert on September 27, 2009, 08:55:06 PM
Does any one remember the Sandhurst road School Getting bombed..It happend about 1.PM dinner time just a lone German plane flying just over the roof height Machine gunning several schools he then dropped one bomb in Harrises steam roller yard in Sangly road and then dropped another on the school..i can remember going down on my cycle to help hand pick the bricks away to get to the children out, with my dad i must have been 13 or 14 years old If you look in the cemetery Verdernt lane ,they have the children and teachers grave in there..even the cemetery had a V2 rocket hit it to..and it blew out lots of graves, and stones fell over several houses and garden etc..when the bombing was heavy i use to go and sleep in Chislehurst caves..that was good fun for me.Bit damp but ok..(( Just tell me if i bore you folks..))... Bill ...
I did not move to Downham till after the war, I was in Leeds for some of the war then lived in Palace Rd Bromley, and spent a lot of time at Chislehurst Caves, my Parents lived in Downham from Downhams early Days, Dad in Downham Way and Mum Verdent Lane(Hutchison/Collinson Families) Chislehurst Caves was great in my teens, being a trad fan, Acker Bilk etc, All I remember about the war years is getting off the train from Leeds and being scared of aircraft, Both Mum and Dad were in the RAF, well untill I came along the mum had other duties?
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road and some advice please re Pendragon Road
Post by: novotna on February 04, 2010, 10:33:33 AM
Hello,
I do not know anything about the bomb but wonder if you could help?I  Currently I work at Pendragon School in Pendragon Road, Downham formelly known as Meeting House. I am trying to trace the site's origins back to 1930's as the Council wants to demolish tI would like  to make  a documentary film with the children as a memory of the school for them and the local community and perhaps even prevent this criminal waste  millions of pounds by the local authority lead by government to demolishing this school and build a modern plaster box probably painted in crazy colours and finished off with wooden cladding , this the latest craze to give it that garden shed look on the pretence of being ECO whilst importing the wood.  The school is brick built in keeping with the houses built around the school. It has parquet floors throughout, each classroom has been modernised with an interactive white board in every classroom and a computer for each teacher, new double glazed windows and doors, new internal doors and a catering kitchen for cooks to prepare lunch for the children on site. For the some 130 children on school role  we have 2 fully equipped science laboratories, 1 food tech. room ( cookery) even an adpted station for  wheelchair users, DT room ( woodwork), music room, fitness suite ( all those machines to do exercises on ) huge equipped gym, 2 changing rooms with showers, bathroom facility for wheelchair users,  large dinning room, library, 2 computer suites, 1 specialist computer suite, art room and a specialist recording studio and lots of large classrooms for English maths, MFL (foreign language), etc. Lots of outside space which  includes a caged football arena, basket ball court, small garden with a pond and many other features.he school and waste millions of s buiding a modern board plaster box probably with some wood cladding! Gone will be the high ceilings, parquet floors, real bricks...
and in 20 or so years even hey presto the land is in private hands!! Can  anyone help please?
 
 

 

Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on February 04, 2010, 12:47:20 PM
Hi Novotna, I was born in Pendragon road in 1954. The school then was a junior school at the back and at the front were (handicapped) children. I know you should not call them that now but it was then so please dont take any offence. Anyway, the school had fond memories for me as we used have a Playcentre their, it was for after school and during school holidays. We had various activities including Football and Rounders. It also used to hold the Boy Scouts and Cub Groups (22nd Lewisham South). I did not go their myself. The Junior school then moved to Ballamore Road but still called itself Pendragon and the school changed its name to Meeting House. Most of the Children were local and walked to the school but when it became Meeting House it took in children from a larger area and they were Bused in. I still own the house in Pendragon and rent it out, i was only their yesterday. I am appalled at what they are going to do. When the estate was first built their was a covenance on certain buildings  i am not sure but might be worth checking as they tried to pull some of it down in the early seventies for local parking but that came a cropper. Please keep me informed, if i can help in any small way, just let me know. John.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: novotna on February 04, 2010, 11:04:20 PM
Hello Splinteer,

My first name is Renee. No offence the school is now totally for special needs children ( now the latest name for them is children with learning difficulties- no doubt in a few years they'll decide that we need to call them something else!)Thanks for the info. How can I find out about a Covenant? Did they actually want to pull some of the school down for a car park?! Also Do you know roughly when the school was built? Also if you know anyone in the area it would not go a miss if people started to write to the Mayor of Lewisham objecting to knocking the present school down only to rebuild it proposal so far for a 2 to 3 storey block!.
Ta!
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: novotna on February 04, 2010, 11:07:49 PM
Sorry John. Just noticed I miss spelt Splinter and also noticed you are named John.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on February 06, 2010, 06:31:19 AM
My house is only 100 yards from the school was built in 1926. i only remember my dad said that when they were going to pull some of the school down to make an access road for garages at the back of the houses it got cancelled because of a legal matter. If i were you i would print flyers and deliver them to the local area with the address of any petition.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Brenda on February 06, 2010, 10:31:34 AM
My schooling began at Pendragon c1948, firstly in the Infants and then Junior Schools.  I had heard about its impending demise and was very sorry to hear it.  Pendragon School goes and so does a bit of my own history.  It's very sad.  One has to wonder why these solid older buildings that blend in so well with their surrounds and have stood the test of time must be demolished to be replaced with - as you say - with characterless boxes.

 A friend of mine made a sentimental journey back to the school a couple of years ago and I have to say, it looked in pretty good condition judging from the photos she took.  Must admit, I was a bit shocked by the high wire fence though.

Good luck with your efforts to preserve Pendragon, Renee.

Bren

Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: novotna on February 07, 2010, 06:06:11 PM
Thank you Brenda and John for the information.
The high fence is the latest craze of keeping children safe! We even have locked gates to get in and out of the school site. Once inside we have swipe cards to get in the bungalow building and the other building. Most schools in Lewisham ( and probably all over London) have such security. Sometimes some of the children want to 'escape' and have climbed over the fence ( the fence is a flimsy wire mesh at least 12feet high) it's quite an athletic accomplishment when they go over.  Sadly this ugly fence was the Head Teacher's choice.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on February 08, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
The place reminds me of Stalag 17. Is the fence to keep people out or the pupils in?
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on February 08, 2010, 12:25:22 PM
Most of the schools in and around Perth have a high fence around to keep the children safe? it the sign of the times
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on February 08, 2010, 11:41:55 PM
If they are going to pull the school down to build a new one where are all the pupils going to go. What i am worried about is if they can relocate them they might not bother rebuilding and sell the land. IT COULD BE A CUNNING PLOY!!!
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Splinter on February 26, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
Novotna. Have you heard anymore about the situation at the school.
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Anthony on May 12, 2010, 12:35:02 PM
Does any one remember the Sandhurst road School Getting bombed..It happend about 1.PM dinner time just a lone german plane flying just over the roof height Machine gunning several schools he then dropped one bomb in Harrises steam roller yard in Sangly road and then dropped another on the school..i can remember going down on my cycle to help hand pick the bricks away to get to the children out, with my dad i must have been 13 or 14 years old If you look in the cemertary Verdernt lane ,they have the children and teachers grave in there..even the cemertary had a V2 rocket hit it to..and it blew out lots of graves, and stones fell over several houses and garden etc..when the bombing was heavy i use to go and sleep in Chislehurst caves..that was good fun for me.Bit damp but ok..(( Just tell me if i bore you folks..))... Bill ...
Bill you could never bore us with your amazing storys of the past.I could not claim to of been around at the time (hence) born 1966,But the pain you all saw and were touched by during the war is what makes you all so very special,Bored never my friend,You keep posting and i will keep responding.

Your friend on the forum

Anthony 
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Anthony on May 12, 2010, 12:43:02 PM
Novotna. Have you heard anymore about the situation at the school.
I passed the school last week,There is now a new section to the school that i had not seen before.

Nursery i do believe,I also took a walk back down memory lane,Downderry school (does it really ever change)
the woodland walk (same except for the crate yard ?? at the bottom end of downderry road,

wonderful a walk and a smile believe it or not all in the sunshine of good old downham town
Title: Re: the bomb in Pendragon Road
Post by: Pauline on May 13, 2010, 03:51:04 AM
Novotna. Have you heard anymore about the situation at the school.
I passed the school last week,There is now a new section to the school that i had not seen before.

Nursery i do believe,I also took a walk back down memory lane,Downderry school (does it really ever change)
the woodland walk (same except for the crate yard ?? at the bottom end of downderry road,

wonderful a walk and a smile believe it or not all in the sunshine of good old downham town

I really must get onto google street view and have a look.