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Title: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 10, 2009, 10:48:38 AM
Being new to this site its amazing how many people live away from Downham but have so many good memories of the estate. I have been looking through old forums and might be able to answer a few questions.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: christine on March 10, 2009, 01:40:14 PM
Welcome Splinter!  As you have probably guessed we old Downhamites are spread far and wide - but isn't it lovely that we all have the same connection.  I was only resident in Downham for about ten years - most of my childhood - but can usually relate to something somebody mentions. Are you going to tell us about your Downham years?
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 10, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
I would love to tell you about my time in downham .My Nan & Grandad Moved from Bellingham to Downham (Pendragon Road) in 1935 My Mum was only 8 then .All i know is that she later went to Durham Hill school and then During the War was evacuated to Folkestone (She was nearer the Germans than most of the army) Later when she retuned and was about 18 her boyfriend was killed on a Russian convoy. She met my Dad in 1952 He was living in Minard Road SE6. They Married in 1953 and i came along a year later. All living in the same house.I was born in the house got it on my Birth Certificate.And i still own the house.Thats my background . I will give you more over the next few weeks if you are interested.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Brenda on March 10, 2009, 10:16:27 PM
Of course we want to hear more!  And as you are living there still, we really want to know what the estate is like these days. As Chris said, we ex-Downhamites have very fond memories of our growing up days there.

I wonder if your mother knew the Petrou family.  Can't remember what number they lived
at.  Could have been 104. Their place backed on to the playground of Ballamore School.


Bren
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 11, 2009, 06:57:06 AM
I would imagine she knew them she seemed to know everbody . She was the School crossing lady top of Pendragon and Northover during the Early 60's
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Dickie eagle on March 11, 2009, 08:30:02 AM
Splinter your Mother was evacuated to Folkstone! so were my sister Louisa, and younger Brothe Joe. I had to cycle down to join them to look after them (Plus a few of my sisters friends, a very nice collection of young ladies ) from Durham Hill I hooked on and became a sort of senior monitor, handing out  the Malt, pencils and exercise books,too old to join the classes. Quite a happy start to the war though     dickie..................
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 11, 2009, 10:40:21 PM
Isnt it amazing that i am discussing things about my mother during the war. I dont know who started this site but they should take a BOW!!!. I do remember my mum saying that she had a duck then and would only lay in other peoples gardens. i think they ended up having it for Xmas .
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 12, 2009, 09:13:25 AM
Well dickie how many from the estate went to Folkestone if only a few you would of known my Mum here name then was Winnie Carroll.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 12, 2009, 10:18:31 AM
Hello Brenda and all You asked for more of my life in Downham so here goes(i will do it bit at a time or it will become a book).Early Memories are hard but i can remember going to a clinic Bottom of Durham hill Fields to have an injection Polio i think and then i went to Ballamore Nursery i can still feel the sun when we went outside on beds for a sleep and i think her name was Mrs White !! used to sit at the bottom of the bed Knitting. Our small bottle o milk and i think it was Cod liver oil as well. Then i went to the Primary School their I can just remember a few names Paul Marriner, Smith boys the rest have gone from the brain. Then when i was 6 I was run over Top of my road with Northover (bit stupid my fault and my mum was the crossing lady but not on duty) But in that time she had a row with the Headmistress of Pendragon School so at 7 years i went to Torridon Road School.( Do any of you remember when the Council Workers used to cut privets redecorate a room and every 5 years Repaint the Front Door. )But the best bit was afterschool Playcenter and then every school holiday we had playcenter going around to various schools. It was about then mum become a Park Warden and went around most of the parks in the area including Elmstead Woods. Well i dont want to hog the site so i will tell you more in a few days....John.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Brenda on March 12, 2009, 10:42:34 PM
Lovely to share your memories, John.  The clinic at the bottom of (what we called) The Hill was where the school dentist tortured.  What years were you at Pendragon School?

I certainly do remember when the council workers came to trim the privet hedges.  I have always associated the smell of privet with Downham and have a privet bush outside the front fence here in Oz.  When it flowers, I am immediately transported back to childhood.

That's right, the council undertook to redecorate regularly and if something such as a windowpane needed new putty, we'd have to go round to the  council offices/yard to put in a request for repairs.

I remember the playcentre at Ballamore School.  My mother sent me there during one school holidays when she was working but I was an anxious child and didn't like it at all.

My mother was, for a time, a dinner lady at Ballamore School.  I hated school dinners and Mum once ticked a teacher off for trying to force me to eat lumpy custard and making me retch.

Look forward to more of your memories.

Bren

Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Pauline on March 13, 2009, 06:16:16 AM
Well dickie how many from the estate went to Folkestone if only a few you would of known my Mum here name then was Winnie Carroll.

My sister was sent to St Albans.  Hitler gave up when I was born.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 13, 2009, 09:58:07 AM
 Well youve had chapter one So in chapter two im going to explain life in my house and freinds. I lived with my mum and dad we lived upstairs because nan and grandad were downstairs. The house is a three bed toilet downstairs  end of terrace front door to the front and pebbledashed. I grew up witha few mates their was Ken Homewood, Stan Price,Steve West and a few others I did have a friend not for long he got killed playing over the footbridge. I was told he was climbing on top of the bridge fell onto the Railway lines dont know if the fall killed him or the elecricity.My Dad had an allottment near the foot bridge but had to give it up because they were going to build a road through it . an extention of Whitefoot Lane Over the Railway onto Burnt ash. But they Didnt And the land went to the Crem instead.And the Fire stn Had a bit of ground (the old stns gone now Brand new Fire Stn. ) they wont close it down now. I remember a house caught fire Opposite the Fire Stn But they were out on a shout . Sohad to get one fron Lewisham.Hope that keeps you going . Back soon Bye.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 14, 2009, 05:10:38 AM
Does any one remember the Young's, who use to build the then famous "Young's Cycles", David was a friend and in my class at Durham Hill. I also remember that we used to have a small farm out the back of the school growing all sorts with goats and other small creatures, this was in our normal lesson time table. I might have told this before, one of the goats died, due to some person feeding the poor thing with acorns. The vet said that was the cause any way. I also Knew the Hogg family quite well due to Jean in my class and Rose when working the stalls at Lewisham markets. My younger sisters went to the girls school Carol and Jenny. The Hutchison Family was spread over the Downham Estate. My grand parents were at 225 Downham Way and cousin Tina was in Ivonhoe Rd, others cannot remember
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Brenda on March 14, 2009, 05:27:41 AM
Hutchsky, I was  familiar with the farm at the back of Durham Hill School.  My mother was a cleaner at the school for many years and the caretaker used to allow me to lead the goats around. Sometimes it was the other way round when they saw a bush they fancied for a nibble. There were also geese of which I was rather afraid and ducks.  One year, the caretaker (was it Mr Warren) sold my mother one for Christmas.  I remember being with her while they waddled about and her picking one out.  Guess who didn't enjoy her Christmas dinner that year.

Splinter, that walk from Verdant Lane over the footbridge to Burnt Ash Lane was a favourite family outing when I was a child. How exciting it was to be on the bridge when a train came through!  How awful about your friend though.

Bren



Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: christine on March 14, 2009, 03:55:04 PM
Bren - gosh - I had forgotten about the farm.  I had wondered where I had seen the farm animals during my time in Downham.  Think we have talked between ourselves about all the green areas around where we lived - and played - wonder if they are still fun places for kids as they were for us.  Expect, as with all other green places here, they are now somewhere for people to dump their rubbish.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 14, 2009, 06:02:35 PM
One good thing Christine they wont allow the rubbish on any greens or play areas. But they still do the Big Bonfire on the green between Shroffold and Shaw Road. Thats been going on for as long as i remember.Does any body Know when the Last Tram run Up Downham Way i Remember the Tracks i Think some were still there some years later outside the toilets on the corner of Southover. theve gone a long time now ! ( toilets i meant). So have the ones at the bottom of Woodland Walk near Bromley Road.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Bel on March 16, 2009, 10:21:43 AM
my dad was a tram conductor on the 54 trams and the last tram to run in Downham was in 1952.  My ex husband was employed in taking up the old tram lines, and that was also in 1952. Welcome Splinter..you are a breath of fresh air....Belx
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Dickie eagle on March 16, 2009, 02:52:05 PM
Bel, my chum one Sidney Adams, lived at the junction of Capstone  and Durham Hill. His Father was a Tram Driver. We both joined the New Cross Tramways Swimming club (another member was Mick McManus ! remember him ? )  dickie.............
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 16, 2009, 03:07:57 PM
Sorry Dickie i was posting a reply when you was on Mick McManus Sung in a Pub Next to and underneath Lewisham Odeon in the 70`s he loved his Country & Western. Not a bad singer either.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 16, 2009, 03:19:19 PM
My last reply got lost so here goes again.Thank you for your kind words Bel. Perhaps im a bit Young but did anybody used to go to Saturday Morning Pictures. I went to the ABC Catford its flats now. I also remember my Mum belonged to the Civil Defence and she had to go to the Hither Green Train Crash i Think it was 1967 But i do no that Robin Gibb of the BEE GEES was on the train.I was going to school in Waterloo then .All trains cancelled from Grove Park for days.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Bel on March 16, 2009, 06:02:22 PM
I thought Mick McManus was associated with wrestling and my Dad took me to see him at New Cross (I think the tablets I am on are making me more confused than usual) . Saturday morning pictures at the old Splendid were a treat, especially when they supplied us with these funny little cardboard glasses which made the picture look in colour.  Yes the ABC closed down and retirement flats were built. I remember ...was it The Queens Hall ?....... a cinema in  Catford, where you ordered a cup of tea when you went in and it was brought to you in the interval. You never had to go far in those days to enjoy yourself .  Belx
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 16, 2009, 08:21:57 PM
Yes Bel Mick McManunus came from New Cross But he also sung in a C&W Band His wrestling  was for money C&W a hobby. I can Just remember another Cinema in Catford On the Corner of Brownhill Road then Sainsburys opened a shop for a while before they moved to the new!!! Shopping centre. Going back Where Was Dr Hockmans Surgery I remember a doctor in Grove Park Its now an Undertakers Next to the Pub Car Park. He was Jewish I Know because he was present when i was born. and being a BOY ( I wont go into details) Made a difference ( NOT A LOT ).
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 17, 2009, 02:55:53 AM
You are right the trams did finish in the early 50s they were a sad loss I remember the last tram, also the tram had a habit, at Grove Park of Jumping the Line and one tried to be a Train. My Dad use to work for  LT Bromley Garage in the early days so I was right into the Trams and Buses. The Hither Green Train crash sticks in my mind so does the the St Johns Crash. I live in Brownhill Road just before heading for OZ, a long story but my next door neighbour and self went to assist with the recovery, not a pretty sight. I was 15 when the St John crash and worked at Reveille News Papers ( not spelt right, girlie type paper belong to Daily Mirror) Office was at Waterloo. That night was a right night mare, We had change trains at London Bridge (fellow office boy from New Cross) we jumped on a train and was told it was the Hayes Train, we got off Quick and found the New Cross/Grove Park service. By the time we got home the crash had accrued, I ofter wonder if that was the train that we had boarded by mistake. I travelled to Waterloo the next morning and it was a sad sight. My local was The Splendid every Sat Morn cost was 3 pence. Went to The Eros a few times, on the corner of Brownhill Road Catford. I think we all went to Dr Hockmans.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Pauline on March 17, 2009, 05:43:13 AM
Think some were still there some years later outside the toilets on the corner of Southover. theve gone a long time now ! ( toilets i meant). So have the ones at the bottom of Woodland Walk near Bromley Road.

I had a friend who lived right next door to those toilets, blowed if I can remember her name.  Must be Alzheimers or something.  Talking of which:

With all the new technology regarding fertility recently, a 65-year-old friend of mine was able to give birth. When she was discharged from the hospital and went home, I went to visit.

'May I see the new baby?' I asked

'Not yet,' She said 'I'll make coffee and we can visit for a while first.'

Thirty minutes had passed, and I asked, 'May I see the new baby now?'

'No, not yet,' She said.

After another few minutes had elapsed,

I asked again, 'May I see the baby now?'

'No, not yet,' replied my friend.

Growing very impatient, I asked, 'Well, when can I see the baby?'

'WHEN HE CRIES!' she told me.

'WHEN HE CRIES?' I demanded. 'Why do I have to wait until he CRIES?'

'BECAUSE I FORGOT WHERE I PUT HIM, O.K.?'
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 17, 2009, 08:47:39 AM
Hutchsy Wasnt the Reveilli Newspaper offices in Stamford Street Waterloo. So was my School.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 17, 2009, 11:14:10 AM
hutchsky Wasn't the Reveille Newspaper offices in Stamford Street Waterloo. So was my School.
 
Yes that's the place, could not remember the road now refreshed, I was there for about a year, then got a job with Tooleys of Lee, a motor cycle shop who was a Velocett Dealer, one of my life's Passion. On bikes from about 14 years of age, too a few years ago, also had my own dealership here in Rockingham WA.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 17, 2009, 11:22:16 AM
I used to go andsee the Motobikes in Lee near the Railway Bridge Used to have secondhand Police bikes if my memory serves me. I bought most of my Bikes from Deeprose because he was a friend of my Dad.I got a 250 gt Royal Enfield, 500 Matchless and a 650 Bonnie from their. Be worth a lot now ooh i forgot i also got a Triton but that was rubbish so only had it for a few weeks then bought a car.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 17, 2009, 12:41:20 PM
I used to go andsee the Motorbikes in Lee near the Railway Bridge Used to have secondhand Police bikes if my memory serves me. I bought most of my Bikes from Deeprose because he was a friend of my Dad.I got a 250 gt Royal En-field, 500 Matchless and a 650 Bonnie from their. Be worth a lot now ooh i forgot i also got a Triton but that was rubbish so only had it for a few weeks then bought a car.
Yes that is who I worked for for a few years before going into the Army when 18. I lived across the road from Deeprose with my first wife and mother at 177 Brownhill Road. I was always in there looking at bikes, but had a family and had to give the bikes away until I went to Oz. My first bike was a Triumph 3T and hung out at the Soap Box, Ace, the Busy Bee and the 59 club in town. Most of my bikes have been Jap since in Oz with a longing for British bikes. Did my training on Velo's and when I played up the boss put me on the LE (Noddy Bikes) I soon change my ways. We were also into the Mopeds from Italy at Tooleys
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 17, 2009, 06:05:54 PM
I usedto go to Johnsons cafe and to Hastings "All the way to Hastings for a Pint". Another place was ST Micks!!!??? Sydenham only went a few times. I used to love bikes NO crash hat then.(Mad i know) But we were invincible then or so we thought.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Brenda on March 17, 2009, 10:16:17 PM
 Where Was Dr Hockmans Surgery I remember a doctor in Grove Park Its now an Undertakers Next to the Pub Car Park. He was Jewish I Know because he was present when i was born. and being a BOY ( I wont go into details) Made a difference ( NOT A LOT ).
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Dr Hockman's surgery was in the top end of Downham Way not far past the junction of Northover and Downham Way. It was right next to the council yard. He was a wonderful doctor, so kind and understanding.  Must have been terribly overworked though.

Bren
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 17, 2009, 10:30:05 PM
Brenda thats my Doctors now i hav`nt changed yet (i must do that ) So many doctors there now i never see the same one twice.GOOD NEWS i have finally rented my house in Pendragon Road to a young family who were living in Downham Way (half way down) opposite Valeswood Road I`m Happy its gone to a local family. Shes grown up in Downham And so have her Mum Dad and Nan. So although I`m not going to be their as often i will keep you all up to date with any news.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Dickie eagle on March 17, 2009, 11:22:10 PM
Bren my love that surgery you described was originally Mark Kelman's in Downham Way, lovely little house, it was also their Home. Now I'm frustrated trying to send pictures of my garden in the snow, sorry, will try again later     dickie................
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 18, 2009, 07:01:21 AM
I used to go to Johnsons cafe and to Hastings "All the way to Hastings for a Pint". Another place was ST Micks!!!??? Sydenham only went a few times. I used to love bikes NO crash hat then.(Mad i know) But we were invincible then or so we thought.

Johnson' cafe was were I meet my first wife, near Brands Hatch. I went their quite often, death hill, the mad mile all trying to make the ton (100mph) We have a toy run every year which is around Xmas in Perth/ Mandurah with up to 6,000 bikes, some years. On one of these rides I spotten this rider who was riding a Gold star who had his crash helmet with yellow painted dots. This was a couple of years ago, I said I knew a person who use to hang out at Johnson riding a Gold Star and crash helmets the same by the name of Pebbles. He said I am Pebbles and this is the same Gold star, small world. I try to sort him every year. For some reason I seem to remember the surgery was just passed the Verdent Lane turn off on Downham Way on the left heading towards Grove Park.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 18, 2009, 09:12:25 AM
Hi hutchsky I put Johnson`s cafe in on google which sent me to ebay and someone selling 6 prints of the cafe and bikes from the 1950`s(a bit before my time). Its offices now. Did you go to the cafe at Biggin Hill and the cafe near Lewisham Hospital Their names elude me now.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 18, 2009, 12:42:55 PM
Hi hutchsky I put Johnson`s cafe in on google which sent me to ebay and someone selling 6 prints of the cafe and bikes from the 1950`s(a bit before my time). Its offices now. Did you go to the cafe at Biggin Hill and the cafe near Lewisham Hospital Their names elude me now.
Yes the one at Biggen Hill is the Salt Box it closed for a while around 1959-60 and we used one over the run way towards Westerem (that not spelt right) also called the Ace, I did find a site on the Salt Box, we had some great times and of course their was a time frame from the box to the Bromley Road turn off, and Keston Lakes was a good place for stopping off with the girl friend. The one near the Hospital was a Motor Cycle Dealer, from racking the brain. My first bike a 3T was a 1948 with a few mods, Matchless front Forks etc. The was other cafe on the Bypass at Farnbrough just pass the turn off which was also called the Mad Mile.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 18, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
Hi Hutchsky `The Salt Box By Salt box Hill` was one  But the otyer one just past the runway i didnt know as the Ace cafe the name deludes me now. Its a Timber Yard Now. When you think back just how many Motorcycle dealers were in a 30min ride from Downham was unreal. I remember a bloke from the estate had a Vincent Black Shadow and another bloke has a Ariel Square Four without the Sidecar( how he put it on its stand Christ knows). Best wishes
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Pauline on March 19, 2009, 04:25:49 AM
Bren my love that surgery you described was originally Mark Kelman's in Downham Way, lovely little house, it was also their Home. Now I'm frustrated trying to send pictures of my garden in the snow, sorry, will try again later     dickie................

Umm... Dickie wasn't Dr Kelmans surgery in Ridgeway Drive - off Burnt Ash Lane?

Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 19, 2009, 09:06:48 AM
Its great dicussing things with all of you .Can those in Oz tell me if this is true A friend of mine Went to Oz assisted passage early70`s a few years later he came back stating that although he wasn`t a citizen he was going to be called up to go to Vietnam!!! is that right??
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: christine on March 19, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Going back to the Hither Green train crash - it made me remember that my brother and his fiancee (later wife) would have normally got that train but on the day it happened they were held up at work in London. Then I got thinking about a couple of other near misses involving my family - my son and his (now) wife were seconds away from being caught in an IRA bomb blast at a pub in Covent Garden and my daughter and her friend were at the top of the World Trade Centre exactly two weeks to the day and time of their destruction. I expect everybody can relate a similar story though.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Dickie eagle on March 19, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
BREN, That was Marks first Surgery,before he moved to Burnt Ash, roughly opposite Launcelot. Incidently talking of 'bikes, has anyone seen or heard of a "Levis " ?    dickie............
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Pauline on March 20, 2009, 12:05:24 AM
Its great dicussing things with all of you .Can those in Oz tell me if this is true A friend of mine Went to Oz assisted passage early70`s a few years later he came back stating that although he wasn`t a citizen he was going to be called up to go to Vietnam!!! is that right??
Sounds about right.  I think those who came on assisted passage back in the 1960s can even vote, which to me is all wrong.  If you want to vote you should become a citizen.  I heard of a lot of Brits who scurried back to England at the time of the Vietnam war.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Pauline on March 20, 2009, 12:11:28 AM
Do any of you remember when the Council Workers used to cut privets redecorate a room and every 5 years Repaint the Front Door. John.

Oh yes, and as kids we would look at the different door colours, and look to see in the order they were being painted which colour we would get.  At one time we had a yukky yellow one, but the next time we got a bright red one - red being my favourite colour.

Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 20, 2009, 12:22:08 AM
WE had this horrible Grey painted on our door i said to the Painter that i didnt like it then he told me its the UNDERCOAT that shot me down in flames the door was eventually painted Red and that was my favorite colour as well.( We are going to have to do something with these sites i am darting about between them  Probably Answering the wrong questions to the wrong site).I dont mind keeps me off the streets!!!
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 20, 2009, 12:29:09 AM
Dickie i saw a LEVIS a few years back at a old bike do at Brands Hatch i think it was a trials bike their was also a Rudge, Sunbeam and my fav Excelsior Manxman(not sure if i spelt that correct).
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Frank (hutchsky) on March 20, 2009, 07:29:14 AM
Dickie i saw a LEVIS a few years back at a old bike do at Brands Hatch i think it was a trials bike their was also a Rudge, Sunbeam and my fav Excelsior Manxman(not sure if i spelt that correct).
The Levis M/C went from 1912-1940 made in Strechford Birmingham and was related to Bown M/C who went on till the late 50's with Villars Motor's, found a good site on Brittish Bikes, just type in what ever bike and bingo! great stuff this internet. I had knowledge of a Lewis but not a Levis good stuff. I started out with my uncle Chas who was the Sunbeam M/C Club sec and they use to run the Brighton Drags and Trials and what we now call motor cross. His first bike was a 197cc Excelsior 2 stroke Villars, which I rode on the back all over the UK in all kinds of weather great stuff for a 13 tear old.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Dickie eagle on March 20, 2009, 09:51:51 AM
re the Levis bikes' I had one bought from Greatrex at New Cross Motors, I think they were something to do with Bluey Wilkinson the New Cross Speedway rider who unfortunately was Killed .I did ask Tony Allen if it was a Brand he recognised. However it was obviously designed for a chair the gear lever was on the tank (Pull up and out for reverse!!!!!!)then knock it in with your knee into bottom / 1st,, it had three gears.When you opened up it went Airborne        dickie..............
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Splinter on March 20, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
My Son in law Had a Honda Fire blade Knowing i had riden Bikes in the past told me to have a go on it "God it was Quick Frightened the Living Daylights out of me". So i`m sticking to my car.Or get a 125cc if unlimited they are nearly as fast as my old 500Matchless.
Title: Re: Being a site NEWBIE
Post by: Dickie eagle on March 29, 2009, 10:39:08 PM
he did warble a bit,and rhere was another, I think his name was Bing something who used to imitate me !, bur Micks mum ltved in Jerningham Rise, opposite Laurie Grove Baths ,all within the area of the Marquise of Granby and the Oddfellows which is much ih the news these days         dickie..............