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Title: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 02, 2006, 10:16:45 PM
We've all gone very quiet, haven't we?  Is everyone alright?  Bel, it seems a long time since your name popped up, and Dickie - do hope you and the family are alright.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: JSmith on November 03, 2006, 02:40:17 AM
We've all gone very quiet, haven't we?  Is everyone alright?  Bel, it seems a long time since your name popped up, and Dickie - do hope you and the family are alright.

Bren

 8)   Hi Brenda   It's starting to get cold here, so I suppose the weather is getting warmer down under. We are getting ads on TV for Christmas already, it's unbelievable. They can't wait to get our money, we don't buy so much now, they have Dandy & Beano books in the store, brings back memories of Christmas day at Churchdown, if only I could pop back in time for one Christmas with the family.
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 05, 2006, 08:37:49 AM
Hallo Smiffy, good to hear from you.  Yes, it's warm over here although - believe it or not - we've had such severe frosts, the fruit industry is going to suffer this year.  We've just finished our bit of haymaking - thank goodness - and now it can rain all it wants to.  Wish it would, we are all very worried about water shortages.

Ah, the Dandy and the Beano.  What memories they bring back.  I still have a Girls' Crystal annual (remember that ladies?) which was an Xmas present from my parents.  We always got a new book at Christmas.  I'm afraid it never feels like the festive season to me out here.  Never had - never will.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Pauline on November 06, 2006, 04:47:57 AM
Ah, the Dandy and the Beano.  What memories they bring back.  I still have a Girls' Crystal annual (remember that ladies?) which was an Xmas present from my parents.  We always got a new book at Christmas.  I'm afraid it never feels like the festive season to me out here.  Never had - never will.

Bren

I still have copies of the Rupert annual.  I read them to my children, and now they read them to their children.  They are getting a bit tatty now though.

The weather here is Perth is getting warm 32deg today, although we are expecting a thunderstorm later this afternoon.  The fruit trees are beginning to sprout little berries, so I have hung old CDs over them to try to keep the birds away from them, although I think they birds are getting wise to that trick.

Went back to England again last month, my Uncle died at the beginning of October.  Still don't miss the place.
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 06, 2006, 09:52:30 PM
Oh, dear old Rupert!  How lovely you still have those books, Pauline.

Yes, I tried the CDs on the fruit trees but to no avail.  I also bought one of those wires that are supposed to hum at a certain pitch and keep the birds away.  All  it did was give them somewhere else to perch until they decided which fruit to destroy. 

We've got a cool morning, thank goodness, and aren't due for a hotty until Thursday.  We've even got a bit of drizzle at present.  How are you doing for water over there?

Sorry to hear about your uncle.  Not unexpected, we know, but it's always sad when another link in the chain is broken.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: JSmith on November 07, 2006, 01:56:19 AM
Ah, the Dandy and the Beano.  What memories they bring back.  I still have a Girls' Crystal annual (remember that ladies?) which was an Xmas present from my parents.  We always got a new book at Christmas.  I'm afraid it never feels like the festive season to me out here.  Never had - never will.

Bren

I still have copies of the Rupert annual.  I read them to my children, and now they read them to their children.  They are getting a bit tatty now though.

The weather here is Perth is getting warm 32deg today, although we are expecting a thunderstorm later this afternoon.  The fruit trees are beginning to sprout little berries, so I have hung old CDs over them to try to keep the birds away from them, although I think they birds are getting wise to that trick.

Went back to England again last month, my Uncle died at the beginning of October.  Still don't miss the place.


Come on you guys, deep down in your heart, Brenda Christmas will always be there, even if it's not "out there for you". Pauline same with you deep down Englands still the best, it's all the changes that put you off. I am finding it hard to accept change, it's happening here in Canada. Maybe you'll not agree. Sorry to hear about your Uncle  Pauline.   Smiffy
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Pauline on November 07, 2006, 02:37:04 AM
Ah, the Dandy and the Beano.  What memories they bring back.  I still have a Girls' Crystal annual (remember that ladies?) which was an Xmas present from my parents.  We always got a new book at Christmas.  I'm afraid it never feels like the festive season to me out here.  Never had - never will.

Bren

I still have copies of the Rupert annual.  I read them to my children, and now they read them to their children.  They are getting a bit tatty now though.

The weather here is Perth is getting warm 32deg today, although we are expecting a thunderstorm later this afternoon.  The fruit trees are beginning to sprout little berries, so I have hung old CDs over them to try to keep the birds away from them, although I think they birds are getting wise to that trick.

Went back to England again last month, my Uncle died at the beginning of October.  Still don't miss the place.


Come on you guys, deep down in your heart, Brenda Christmas will always be there, even if it's not "out there for you". Pauline same with you deep down Englands still the best, it's all the changes that put you off. I am finding it hard to accept change, it's happening here in Canada. Maybe you'll not agree. Sorry to hear about your Uncle  Pauline.   Smiffy

We still have Christmas!  Roast Rurkey, Christmas Trees and poor old Santas dressed up in 40 deg heat!  We still have decorations around the house which no-one ever wants to take down.  Christmas Pud and Brandy Sauce, air conditioning cranked up to the limit.  Then wait an hour and the kids all in the pool, while the oldies sit and vegitate.  And no I don't miss crowded stores, rude assistants, and the fog!
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 08, 2006, 04:36:31 AM
I'm afraid not Smiffy.  It is utterly and totally meaningless to me, even when I attend the local church carol service.  Once upon a time, I always got a lump in my throat when hearing "Silent Night" but even that leaves me without emotion these days.  Perhaps I would be the same in England though; it may have nothing to do with having Christmas in Australia. 

Oh, there's one thing I do like and that's sending and receiving Christmas cards and letters.  It's a great time for contacting those once a year people and keeping the connections.  That brings me real joy. 

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on November 10, 2006, 12:35:33 AM
Bren my love,you will have a bit of Xmas spirit I promise, and don't forget that I get yuletide in duplicate as the first will be in Holland on Dec. 5th for saint Nicholas  ( say it quickly  it becomes Santa Claus ). Then 20 days later I also enjoy a family Christmas in Windsor. Sad that for the first time Richard will not be here to share it with us ,but he will be here in spirit and there will be a toast raised for the times we have enjoyed together in the past, even a " Whisky Mac" Keith's favourite tipple raised for his friendship. . and a big thanks for all the info on Bob Parsons I'll start with the Perth bunch and might be lucky eh ! , Dickie....................................
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 11, 2006, 12:44:09 PM
Hallo Dickie - always good to see your name pop up again.

Like you toasting Richard, we do always make a toast to absent friends and loved ones.  And by golly, the list seems to grow each year.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on November 15, 2006, 08:54:35 AM
Hallo Dickie - always good to see your name pop up again.

Like you toasting Richard, we do always make a toast to absent friends and loved ones.  And by golly, the list seems to grow each year.

Bren
back again. did a 70 km run round the m25 :and on to the Kings Head in old Bexley for Joe Mudele's Jazz night. the guest artist was a violinist and I shuddered, he turned out a pleasant surprise and was as good as Stephan Grappeli plus.  I've never seen or heard a violin played like George Formby's Banjo, or using the same instrument as a Guitar .altogether just what I needed, where were you Bel ? dickie..X....
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 15, 2006, 09:41:50 PM
Hallo Dickie,

Sounds as if you are keeping as active and interested as ever.  You are a shining example to us all.

It seems a long time since we heard from Bel.  I hope she's alright.

Pretty chilly down this way at present.  Some very welcome rain yesterday in just above freezing temperatures and interspersed with snow flurries.  And just as I'd put the winter woollies away.  We're due for a 30oC Sunday though.  Victoria weather is very perverse.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Bel on November 16, 2006, 12:16:01 PM
Dear  Dickie and Brenda,  sis and I are well.  I do not participate any more in the discussions but I still enjoy your imput. Belx
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 16, 2006, 09:15:21 PM
Hallo Bel,

I am delighted you are both alright and thank you for letting us know.  Your contributions are missed.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: JSmith on November 17, 2006, 01:25:53 AM
Dear  Dickie and Brenda,  sis and I are well.  I do not participate any more in the discussions but I still enjoy your imput. Belx

Bell        If you come up with some old memories of Downham we would like to hear them.     Smiffy.
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 18, 2006, 08:36:52 AM
Here,here, Smiffy.

Has any seen the photos of the regeneration of the Quaggy?  Can't think which website I found them on but I imagine they wouldn't be hard to find.  Quite fascinating and Dickie and Bel might remember it as it was before it was channelled through concrete. Looks lovely now.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on November 18, 2006, 09:01:27 PM
The Quaggy rejuvenated !   thats a move in the right direction, now I can go back and see how my newts, salamanders, sticklebacks,minnows, are getting on.The only thing is what the kids would make of my having a paddle ! perhaps Bel and big Sis would join in ? oh and you are too young to retire Bel or is the world getting a trifle heavy ? we will all help if we can.           dickie................
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 19, 2006, 08:49:19 AM
It is good news, isn't it Dickie.  I'll try to find where I saw the photos and let you know - or maybe you've already found it by now.  I thought it looked wonderful and can imagine how magical I would have found it had it been like that during my Downham days.  As for the paddling - go for it!

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: JSmith on November 20, 2006, 12:54:51 AM
It is good news, isn't it Dickie.  I'll try to find where I saw the photos and let you know - or maybe you've already found it by now.  I thought it looked wonderful and can imagine how magical I would have found it had it been like that during my Downham days.  As for the paddling - go for it!

Bren
 
Yes Brenda please try to find where you found the  photos, It will be interesting to see them.   Smiffy
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on November 27, 2006, 03:04:53 PM
It is good news, isn't it Dickie.  I'll try to find where I saw the photos and let you know - or maybe you've already found it by now.  I thought it looked wonderful and can imagine how magical I would have found it had it been like that during my Downham days.  As for the paddling - go for it!Bren
.     My trouble is all these hairy drives to Old Bexley for the Jazz scene do not leave much time for "Goofing" which is a shame as well as The Quaggy  there must be other interesting things happening, what stream was Peter Pan 's pool on ?, I know it went west under the road and through the old "Flower House" and wound its way across the rubbish dump to join  a fresh water  spring at the top of Brangbourne just past the  "Thousand Islands " .  I "found " (!) my first bike there which was resurrected and saved me a lot of pennies in travel.  dickie....................
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on November 27, 2006, 09:14:08 PM
 Tell us more about the "Thousand Islands" please, Dickie.   It's not something I was familiar with.  You know, I've never even given a thought to where the water in Peter Pan's Pool came from or went to.  Brain-dead Bren strikes again.

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: JSmith on December 02, 2006, 05:22:07 AM
Hey Dickie   I used to deliver the mail to Flower House estate & Beckingham Hill rd when I was a postie at Catford, they have all been knocked down now I understand.  Does brangbourne rd run off Old Bromley rd if so the river ran through beckingham place park, at the back of the studio club. I use to paddle in that river especially when I tried to jump from one side to the other and did'nt make it, spent many hours at the park, I can remember a steam train running under the bridge, which was right in the park, and all the steam coming up around me as I stood on top, I forget what line that was. I think it went to Hayes.  Keep the memories coming I love it. Smiffy
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 03, 2006, 08:59:42 PM
Sounds as if your mum had a lot of washing to do, Smiffy!

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Pauline on December 05, 2006, 01:28:45 AM
Hey Dickie   I used to deliver the mail to Flower House estate & Beckingham Hill rd when I was a postie at Catford, they have all been knocked down now I understand.  Does brangbourne rd run off Old Bromley rd if so the river ran through beckingham place park, at the back of the studio club. I use to paddle in that river especially when I tried to jump from one side to the other and did'nt make it, spent many hours at the park, I can remember a steam train running under the bridge, which was right in the park, and all the steam coming up around me as I stood on top, I forget what line that was. I think it went to Hayes.  Keep the memories coming I love it. Smiffy

No I seem to recall that if I went down Reigate Road, near the end, there was a railway bridge there.  We used to stand there and watch the trains go by.  Alas Smiffy, steam trains were out before I was allowed to go that far without a grown up!
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: JSmith on December 05, 2006, 02:43:31 AM
Hey Dickie   I used to deliver the mail to Flower House estate & Beckingham Hill rd when I was a postie at Catford, they have all been knocked down now I understand.  Does brangbourne rd run off Old Bromley rd if so the river ran through beckingham place park, at the back of the studio club. I use to paddle in that river especially when I tried to jump from one side to the other and did'nt make it, spent many hours at the park, I can remember a steam train running under the bridge, which was right in the park, and all the steam coming up around me as I stood on top, I forget what line that was. I think it went to Hayes.  Keep the memories coming I love it. Smiffy

No I seem to recall that if I went down Reigate Road, near the end, there was a railway bridge there.  We used to stand there and watch the trains go by.  Alas Smiffy, steam trains were out before I was allowed to go that far without a grown up!

 We are about the same age, now you have me thinking about seeing the steam engines running through beckenham park, I checked my ancient A-Z and it is the line to Hayes. Brains playing tricks perhaps? When did the steam trains stop running, any one know.   Smiffy
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 05, 2006, 05:51:54 AM
A walk down Reigate Road and across the railway bridge and up to Baring Road and back via Grove Park was a Sunday family outing when I was a child.  Of course, the pleasure was heightened if a train came along while we were standing on the bridge! 

I can't remember when steam trains dropped out of service (Dickie, Bel?) but there is a wonderful website with all sorts of information that pertains to the war and post-war years.  It is part of a Kent junior school project and has supplied me with a lot of information.  It's worth a look just to see what wonderful work schools can do.  Wish it had been that interesting in my day.

Here it is: www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/homework.   They've done a terrific job.
Another site that may interest is: www.wartimememories.co.uk

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on December 06, 2006, 06:35:32 AM
hi Bren , nice to see you up and about lover. that path that goes down ti the railway bridge, happy days we used to pull faces at the engine drivers and the fireman would throw coal at us, which i would put in my soapbox cart and take home. the path is now on the edge of Hither Green cemetery where most of the "Eagle"s I knew now lay, including my younger brother Joe, ah well. other than that Good Morning all !     dickie>...........
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Post by: Brenda on December 07, 2006, 12:26:12 AM
Good to see you too, Dickie.  Yes,happy days and our pleasures were very simple (and cheap) weren't they?  Sounds as if the cemetery has expanded somewhat.  Well, I suppose it had to, didn't it?  My grandmother is there somewhere although I didn't realise it when I was young.  My father never went to visit her grave (nor his siblings) and I never thought to ask where she was buried.  A shame really.

Bren
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Post by: Pauline on December 07, 2006, 01:53:34 AM
Good to see you too, Dickie.  Yes,happy days and our pleasures were very simple (and cheap) weren't they?  Sounds as if the cemetery has expanded somewhat.  Well, I suppose it had to, didn't it?  My grandmother is there somewhere although I didn't realise it when I was young.  My father never went to visit her grave (nor his siblings) and I never thought to ask where she was buried.  A shame really.

Bren

You know - trying to delve into my family tree is proving very difficult, especially from the other side of the world.  I too never thought to ask the questions when those who would know the answers were alive.  I did try and get some information from my Uncle before he left us, but to my surprise he didn't know a lot either!  It must have been of little importance to that generation.  I think we are more interested in our ancestors than our parents were.
I recall my father had an elder brother- Harry, he was never mentioned.  When I asked Dad about his brother he told me that his parents had disowned him, and that the had gone to Australia in the merchant navy and died there.   
When I came to Australia I set about trying to locate the family, and I did, and the Australian family had thought that Harry had been a criminal.  But between us we managed to piece together what had happened.  He had missed his ship when it was recalled during the General Strike, had been listed as a deserter and later cleared.  The most amazing thing is that his grandson - James, was born on the same day in the same year as me, and taking into account the time differences, we were born about 25 minutes apart!!!!
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 07, 2006, 10:36:54 PM
That is a really fascinating story, Pauline.  You are right, the previous generation obviously weren't as fascinated by their ancestral roots as we are.  I was lucky enough to find a long-lost cousin via the Internet and that, in turn, connected to me to other cousins.  This led to a tiny bit of information that I posted on a website and which a woman in Canada saw a couple of years ago.  She has been tracing her genealogy for some years and it turns out she is descended from my (hitherto unknown) paternal grandmother's sister.  Through her, I have been put in touch with other descendants on that side - it's amazing - and have family details dating back to 1760.  Of course, there are still a lot of gaps and, as you rightly say, it's not easy to work one's way back from the other side of the world.  Well, it would take a lot of time, effort and money.
Bren
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Post by: Dickie eagle on December 08, 2006, 06:49:45 AM
Morning all, Pauline is right to delve into our originswhich can turn up some surprises. my maternal grandfather "Lost" a brother also named Harry (Linihan ) I think I told Brenda he is buried in Ballarat ,I traced him through his last ship the White Star "Saxonia "  my mothers brother Dick joined him just as the war 1 broke out and he enlisted as an Anzac and was draughted to UK en route for France . Bren would you like me to locate your Gran in Hither Green ? some of the older graves are sadly neglected, brrr! think  my ashes can go off Tower Bridge back to when I started eh .    dickie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,X
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 11, 2006, 02:07:20 AM
Hallo Dickie,

If it isn't too much of a hassle to locate an old grave, it would be rather lovely to know something about it. As I said, neither my father nor his siblings (as far as I know) gave it any attention but my elderly cousin says she was buried in the Hither Green Cemetery.  That makes sense as she lived only a couple of streets away when she died.  Thank you Dickie.  I believe I have said before it has long been my intention to have a look at the Old Ballarat Cemetery and I'd be happy to see if I could locate your uncle's grave when I eventually make the effort and the trip down to Ballarat.
Bren



Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on December 11, 2006, 09:41:32 AM
 :lol:   Bren, I need Grans full name Plum, or was it Harris ?
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 11, 2006, 11:37:48 PM
Hallo Dickie,

I've just had one of those 'duh' moments I read so much about!  I told you I should be called No-Brain Bren, didn't it? 

Gran's name was Rosina Hand nee Biddle.  Do you need date of death or anything else?  I do have information although it is packed with all the other irreplaceable stuff, ready to be grabbed should fire come through.

Bren
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Post by: Pauline on December 12, 2006, 03:45:47 AM
 

Gran's name was Rosina Hand nee Biddle.  Do you need date of death or anything else?  I do have information although it is packed with all the other irreplaceable stuff, ready to be grabbed should fire come through.

Bren

Funny the things we have to think of down here.  I have a big holdall with all my old photos and documents in it.  I also have CDs of all the newer photos in it too.  Ready to grab and run with when the firees tell us out or stay.  I also have display cabinets full of vases and stuff - but you have to draw the line somewhere.  We have the land around the house cleared, but the embers are the problem.  Nothing serious came our way last year, but the year before a fire got just a little too close for comfort.  As the house is brick and tile I think we might stay.
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 12, 2006, 09:04:47 PM
Yes, the photos are absolutely irreplaceable.  Like you, Pauline, I've copied some to CD and have stored one copy at my sister's place.  Mind you, there have been some fires around where she lives in Ararat so it's no guarantee.  However, I'm just hoping we don't both go up in smoke at the same time.  I also have a case with things of sentimental value such as my prize books from Pendragon and my one and only letter from my father etc. 

Our house in weatherboard and sits right on a heavily wooded road, with years'worth of fallen branches etc, which is where our biggest danger will come from.  As you know we are not allowed to cut down trees and there are several large gums only a few feet away on the other side of the road.  If I have to leave there is only one place to go and that is to a paddock where there is little grass, few trees and a small green area over where the underground spring runs. 

Having said that, about 4 years ago when fire got to within 1/2km as the crow flies, I stayed with the buckets and the hoses and the ladder against the side of the house in case embers landed on the roof.  Syd had gone off to join his CFA team and I guess I was more confident because the water bombers were on the job.   All I can say is, thank heaven for the wind-change. 


Hope you are keeping safe over west.

Bren

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Post by: Pauline on December 13, 2006, 12:44:10 AM

Hope you are keeping safe over west.

Bren



So far so good.  I guess you read that we had a huge fire in the hills yesterday.  One house was completely destroyed, and two others severely damaged.  The sickening thing this morning is that a 58 year old local was arrested for starting the fire.  And, unfortunately, that usually is the cause of all these fires.  The ones over your side I think were lightening strikes, but 9 times out of 10 some sicko starts them, then hangs around to see the devastation they cause, luckily the authorities are aware of this fact, and a lot of them get caught.  But I don't think the penalties are strict enough.  They should be charged with attempted murder at the very least, or let the residents at them!

Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Brenda on December 13, 2006, 10:01:07 PM
Yes,Pauline, did hear about it.  We tend to think it's young people who start these fires off, don't we?  You'd think at the age of 58 yrs. a bit of common sense and decency and responsibility would prevail.  We 've just heard there was a local grass fire that two tankers went out to at 2.30am.  Now, we know there wasn't any lightning so what else can you presume other than a firebug is about. It's scary. 

Sentencing?  Personally, if I caught a firebug at it, I'd be sticking their hands in the flames! 

Bren
Title: Re: Is anybody there?
Post by: Dickie eagle on February 18, 2007, 09:29:40 AM
Ah, the Dandy and the Beano.  What memories they bring back.  I still have a Girls' Crystal annual (remember that ladies?) which was an Xmas present from my parents.  We always got a new book at Christmas.  I'm afraid it never feels like the festive season to me out here.  Never had - never will.Bren
[/quote]I still have copies of the Rupert annual.  I read them to my children, and now they read them to their children.  They are getting a bit tatty now though.
The weather here is Perth is getting warm 32deg today, although we are expecting a thunderstorm later this afternoon.  The fruit trees are beginning to sprout little berries, so I have hung old CDs over them to try to keep the birds away from them, although I think they birds are getting wise to that trick.Went back to England again last month, my Uncle died at the beginning of October.  Still don't miss the place.[/quote]
I still have a Hardback with a picture on the front called "Friend or Foe " from Mr. Hall at Launcelot he inscribed it "from Sir to Dicky " (Not from Mr. Hall ! ) I glowed when I got it and it's still a happy memory BUT, what do I do with it ?       dickie........................