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Title: interesting families
Post by: bren4 on June 14, 2005, 10:53:29 PM
Dickie's story about his American Indian grandmother is fascinating.  There must be more interesting family histories among us.  I was told by my mother that my father's family was related by marriage to the bandleader, Henry Hall.  I've never been able to find out more and older cousins who are the repository of family history have never heard of it.  On my mother's side, there was a - somewhat tenuous - link by marriage to a singer, Diana/Dinah Miller.  I've managed to find a couple of photos of her and even a recording which was very exciting.  Has anyone else any interesting 'stuff' to share.  

We are enjoying much needed rain here.

Hope you are all well.

Brenda
Title: Brenda re Carol Phillips
Post by: adcross@ozconnect.net on June 15, 2005, 06:49:20 AM
Hello Brenda,

I left a message on the other web page but didn't get a reply re Carol Phillips. You mentioned her , my wife Frances ( nee Day ) went to Durham Hill School and knew a Carol Phillips who lived near the school. They were friendly until we got married and then moved to New Zealand in 1961. We moved on again to the Sunshine Coast of Queensland in 1999.

Frances has a twin sister Margaret who still lives near the Chinbrook. Other school friends were Margaret Cannon and Shirley Coward.

Another thing that we remember was the people that sold sweets from their house on either Shroffold or Durham Hill and they used to have the jars of sweets on each stair of the staircase, ring any bells ?.

You can find us at adcross@ozconnect.net
Title: Re: Brenda re Carol Phillips
Post by: Dickie eagle on June 15, 2005, 09:15:08 AM
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Hello Brenda,
Another thing that we remember was the people that sold sweets from their house on either Shroffold or Durham Hill and they used to have the jars of sweets on each stair of the staircase, ring any bells ?.
You can find us at adcross@ozconnect.net
  You just mentioned one of old ( sorry Hun, YOUNG )  Bren's favourite people, " Old Joe " who lived in Capstone between the top of Lamrock and Durham Hill. Joe Gorringe was a likeable old chap who originally parked his stall at the top end of Camlan Rd., I bought four of the new 3d pieces from him when they were first minted,they cost 6d each, Joe was cute but not far sighted as they were King Edward VIII which were withdrawn, if Joe had kept them as an investment he would have been seriously rich comparatively, as it was he only made 100 % profit . I still have one.  He later took his stall back outside his house, it was rumoured that Bolton complained at unfair competition ? ?     dickie...........................
Title: Re: Brenda re Carol Phillips
Post by: Bren4 on June 15, 2005, 11:48:50 PM
Quote from: adcross@ozconnect.net
Hello Brenda,

I left a message on the other web page but didn't get a reply re Carol Phillips.

Hallo there (sorry, can't see your name anywhere).

I apologise for my lack of response.  I have obviously not looked properly at all the forums.  Blame my cotton-wool brain!  Yes, Carol lived opposite Durham Hill School, right at the end of Durham Hill.  She was a really nice girl.  I lived opposite the school.  My mother was a cleaner there for many years.  I used to go over there after school and help her.  The caretaker's name - Mum's supervisor - was Mr Warren.  Does your wife remember him?

As Dickie told you, I remember Joe well.  Forever in my memory is his voice saying "Hef you got your retion book" (Have you got your ration book).  At least, that is how it sounded to me at the time.  He had a kerbside stall originally but when the council beaurocrats put a stop to him selling there, he put all the jars on the staircase and continued the business from there.  I remember his wife opening the door and peering around.  She always seemed very nervous.

It's good to have more people sharing the memories
Bren
Title: Re: interesting families
Post by: Dickie eagle on June 16, 2005, 10:46:37 PM
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Dickie's story about his American Indian grandmother is fascinating.  There must be more interesting family histories .  On my mother's side, there was a - somewhat tenuous - link by marriage to a singer, Diana/Dinah Miller.  I've managed to find a couple of photos of her and even a recording which was very exciting.  Has anyone else any interesting 'stuff' to share.  We are enjoying much needed rain here.
Hope you are all well.Brenda
                                                     These family connections are a source of many surprising discoveries, and Bren Lover, you were going to write a book. Remember ?   You can start with dinah Miller circa 1934'ish starting with John Collins on the Sunday Luxembourg, Radio Toulon, Hilversum,Radio Normandy etc. advertising programmes .In between 1935/7 she was with Sidney Kite at the Piccadilly Hotel with a spell which found her vocalising for the Jack Harris orchestra at the Savoy . geneology is infectious once you start but it can be fun. I know she recorded "Shoe Shine Boy " but must confess I prefer the Bing Crosby version (he sings like me !)    dickie.....................
Title: Re: interesting families
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2005, 11:03:35 PM
These family connections are a source of many surprising discoveries, and Bren Lover, you were going to write a book. Remember ?   You can start with dinah Miller circa 1934'ish starting with John Collins on the Sunday Luxembourg, Radio Toulon, Hilversum,Radio Normandy etc. advertising programmes .In between 1935/7 she was with Sidney Kite at the Piccadilly Hotel with a spell which found her vocalising for the Jack Harris orchestra at the Savoy . geneology is infectious once you start but it can be fun. I know she recorded "Shoe Shine Boy " but must confess I prefer the Bing Crosby version (he sings like me !)    dickie.....................[/quote]

Dickie dear, you never fail to amaze me.  Thank you for this snippet of information.  Mum used to tell us how the family would hear Diana (I believe she changed the name later) on the radio and feel so proud of her.  The connection is, as I said, somewhat tenuous.  I believe Diana's mother - who was known as Aunty Winnie by Mum -  married an uncle's in-law. Something like that anyway.    Would an inter-racial marriage have been unusual in those days?  
Brenda
Title: Re: interesting families
Post by: Dickie eagle on June 16, 2005, 11:57:53 PM
Quote from:   On my mother's side, there was a - somewhat tenuous - link by marriage to a singer, Diana/Dinah Miller.  I've managed to find a couple of photos of her and even a recording which was very exciting.  Has anyone else any interesting 'stuff' to share.  We are enjoying much needed rain her Hope you are all well. Brenda[/quote
                        we don't have to go far from home to meet celebraties Bren ,do we ? and I thought "Bronzed " was funny,  I hope Sid wasn't the model for the India rubber contortionist . I dabble in doggerel , inscriptions for celebration cards etc. My grandson ( one Daniel Sebastian Ophof ) has shown his book to most of Holland. He wanted something personal so I wrote "Dare to be a Daniel. I know one who can., not just a Daniel , but a Sebastian ". Oh, and nice picture Pet, think I will frame it.    dickie..............................X
Title: Re: Brenda re Carol Phillips
Post by: Dickie eagle on June 22, 2005, 07:29:06 PM
Hello Brenda
 As Dickie told you, I remember Joe well.  Forever in my memory is his voice saying "Hef you got your retion book" (Have you got your ration book).  At least, that is how it sounded to me at the time.  He had a kerbside stall originally but when the council beaurocrats put a stop to him selling there, he put all the jars on the staircase and continued the business from there.  I remember his wife opening the door and peering around.  She always seemed very nervous.It's good to have more people sharing the memories   Bren[/quote] an aside madam, are you still desirous of creating a "Wartime" set of trophies ? I do have a few bits and pieces which includes a ration book. 'fraid old joe doesn't trade now but they may bring happy memories  , and petrol coupons etc., I will bundle up a few bits and post them on, suited  ?dickie....................
Title: Re: Brenda re Carol Phillips
Post by: Bren4 on June 22, 2005, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: Dick Eagle
Hello Brenda
  Bren
an aside madam, are you still desirous of creating a "Wartime" set of trophies ? I do have a few bits and pieces which includes a ration book. 'fraid old joe doesn't trade now but they may bring happy memories  , and petrol coupons etc., I will bundle up a few bits and post them on, suited  ?dickie....................[/quote]

Dickie dear, I would welcome any wartime/Downham days memorabilia you are willing to part with and I thank you for your generosity.  

Ah, so you found Bronzed did you?  How?  I am sure I've never said anything about it.  If you go to Eloquent Stories, you'll find another bit of my writing.  A very different type of story to Bronzed though.  

I have often thought of trying to write for greetings cards but thinking about it is as far as I've ever got!  I'm afraid I am often confronted by long periods of a blank screen!

Tell us more about your son-in-law's book, please.

Bren
Title: Re: Brenda re Carol Phillips
Post by: Dickie eagle on June 23, 2005, 10:07:37 AM
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I have often thought of trying to write for greetings cards but thinking about it is as far as I've ever got!  I'm afraid I am often confronted by long periods of a blank screen!Tell us more about your son-in-law's book, please.Bren
     Not much to tell as all my grandchildren have a "book" in which family and friends write a message, a poem,draw a picture, write verse ,or make general comments so they will have a record of everyone that enters their lives . One granddaughter is overly proud of a joke entry of when she asked me to draw a cat,so I did a rather smirky ,self assured "Tom"in cartoon form walking away with it's head proud looking back with a cat grin and its fundamental orifice blatantly obvious. what you have to do to please some people eh ?. have you ever typed your name in on the web Bren?, love X X   dickie.................
Title: interesting families
Post by: Bren4 on June 23, 2005, 11:02:12 PM
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 have you ever typed your name in on the web Bren?, love X X   dickie.................


Yes Dickie - but I didn't think anyone else would.  Good idea, those books for the children.  

Bren
Title: our Brenda
Post by: Dickie eagle on June 24, 2005, 10:32:54 PM
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 have you ever typed your name in on the web Bren?, love X X   dickie.................
Yes Dickie - but I didn't think anyone else would.  Good idea, those books for the children.  Bren
       Cor ! now everyone will want an autograph me Flower,charge 'em for the privilege .  Have you found any more Talent in the family ?, and you really must get a recording of "Here's to the next time" the signature tune of Henry Hall to add to the collection. 'bye now   dickie.............
Title: Re: our Brenda
Post by: Bren4 on June 26, 2005, 11:00:40 PM
Have you found any more Talent in the family ?, and you really must get a recording of "Here's to the next time" the signature tune of Henry Hall to add to the collection. 'bye now   dickie.............[/quote]
There's musical talent Dickie with one professional film score composer cousin and other cousins who play various instruments.  My sister and nephew also have musical talent.  Me?  I scraped the violin at school and I can manage a few tunes on a keyboard with one finger and a few chords otherwise, I have to limit myself to listening.
Bren
Title: Re: our Brenda
Post by: Dickie eagle on August 25, 2005, 10:44:13 PM
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Have you found any more Talent in the family ?, and you really must get a recording of "Here's to the next time" the signature tune of Henry Hall to add to the collection. 'bye now   dickie.............
I can manage a few tunes on a keyboard with one finger and a few chords otherwise, I have to limit myself to listening.
Bren[/quote]
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      Absolutely fqascinating, and you'll have to show me how to play Chords with one finger Pet          dickie................X
Title: Re: our Brenda
Post by: Bren$ on August 26, 2005, 01:02:26 AM
Absolutely fqascinating, and you'll have to show me how to play Chords with one finger Pet          dickie................X[/quote][/quote]

You put me to shame Dickie.  Of course, I should have said: I can play a few chords with my left hand and single notes with one finger on the right hand.  Or something like that.  Now I'm getting meself in a muddle.
I'm keeping busy here at the moment.  Am mum to a triplet lamb and constant rounder-upperer of a recalcitrant steer who sees fences as absolutely no barrier to his desire for a new bit of grass.  
It's been a bit warm for the end of winter - up in the low 20s yesterday and an expected 24oC forecast for the weekend.  The lizards are out, that means the long wigglies will be coming out of their winter torpor.  The terror begins again!
Bren[/i]
Title: Change in the Weather
Post by: JSmith on August 26, 2005, 03:09:43 AM
Hi Brenda       So your heading for the hot stuff are you? We where up in the 80's this Summer but I guess thats nothing to what you get,although it gets very humid over here (or up here).   The mosquitos are dying off, and Fall (Autumn) is on it's way. Do you know what? some of the big businesses around have started to advertise for Christmas, Blimey I say yet again Blimey they don't 'arf rush fing's don't they.   Smiffy
Title: Re: Change in the Weather
Post by: Bren4 on August 28, 2005, 11:26:24 PM
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Hi Brenda       So your heading for the hot stuff are you?

Hallo Smiffy,

Yes, it's ridiculously warm for the end of winter.  However, experience tells us this could change.  Spring can be quite cold here with severe frosts.  However, this warm period will most certainly bring out the long wigglies and it's eyes in the back of head time once again.  Last year, I put mothballs in containers around the perimeter of the garden. It obviously didn't deter two tiger snakes that found their way in. This year, I might try dissolving the mothballs in water and spreading it around that way.  Yep, you're right, my paranoia is kicking in.
Bren